Why do people think fury beats a prime Wlad?

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    That's nonsense.

    I along with others have put forward logical and objective opinions.
     
  2. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Fury forced Wladimir to be the bull when he spent the last decade being the matador and I just think he couldnt get going

    In a rematch with a full camp knowing Furys approach they may piece together an aggressive plan of attack that may work. i just wonder if Banks is capable of doing this as a trainer

    To me this could be an Ali vs Spinks scenario, if Wlad wins the rematch which i think is fairly possible I would say Fury doesnt beat Wlad on his best day

    Do most people think Holmes always loses to Spinks?

    I dont think Fury beats a young Wlad but who really knows
     
  3. gold

    gold Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If wlad was Jones height he would be faster and more skilled and if Jones was wlads height and weight he would be slower and clumsy. You cant have it one way and not the other.
     
  4. gold

    gold Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wlad was always going to lose when he reached old age it had nothing to do with fury. Go watch fury train he is an absolute goofy bum. All of a sudden the division is hot again when wlad gets old. This was always going to happen. Show me one Heavyweight that was beating everyone at 40 years old? Not one and they all get a pass for being old. The fact that wlad could hold on to the top at such an old age is a testament to his greatness. Haters that's all there is!
     
  5. Two Shakes

    Two Shakes Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Strange how most of the posters suggesting that Wlad lost due to age and being shot, are also suggesting he'll beat Fury in the rematch ?

    HTF does that work then ?

    Is Wlad going to visit the fountain of youth ?

    A time machine ?

    Courage tablets ?
     
  6. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    No, the division getting good again is why Wlad lost.

    Lewis was in worse condition than Wlad was and very close in age when he beat Vitali. That is why Lewis is Great and Wlad is not.
     
  7. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Jones also spent his entire boxing career shoving anabolic steroids up his backside in order to move up in weight. JONES was filling out his frame as he moved up in weight as well, so he wasn't entirely smaller than his opponents. You cannot use height as an excuse for Wlad. People have all kinds of physical advantages and disadvantages in boxing. Height is similar to arm length, power, shorter people can cut the distance and fight from the inside, tall people fight from the outside etc. You also have to consider many former heavy weight champions were taller or had LONGER reach than their opponents.
     
  8. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Once again Dino***** stain spews out mediocre bile. Wlad lost at 39, Lewis was getting outboxed and taken to school at 37, you cannot compare the two. Also how was Lewis in worse shape? Had Lewis not been terribly outboxed by king Vitali, he would not have retired. Rendering cuts dont make you a better boxer either, it is random.
     
  9. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Lewis was in-active , over weight and took the 'King Vitali' fight on short notice. Despite his poor condition he over came an out boxing and forced the stoppage in just 6 rounds.

    Wlad had a better camp , was better prepared and was in better physical condition. He didn't have what it took to throw caution to the wind and engage in the dog fight that was required of him.
    Lewis had that grit and determination . Thats why he is a great and why Wlad is not.
     
  10. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Damn.... you really are deluded.

    I GUESS Wlad needed to open up a cut on TYSON Fury's face in order to win. How many more punches per round did Fury have over Wlad? Both practically just circled around the ring doing nothing.....
     
  11. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Age affects how you compete in the ring, both fighters did absolutely nothing for 12 rounds. Reflexes, agility, technique, ring IQ etc all start to falter with age. Only thing Wlad has now is power, hopefully he can pull a Rahman and knock out Fury.
     
  12. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    does this also explain why u fcuked up with your predicition of the fight?

    ia gree though that wlad was too old, he might well have edged the middling prospect fury when prime.
     
  13. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    theywere the same age bracket, and lewis destroyed vitali inside half the distance, a guy who would be a title holder for many years later.

    wlad was lucky to survive against a mediocre prospect.

    the difference could not be more pronounced - how on earth you see it the other way round, goodness.
     
  14. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Fury sheared the skin clean off his feet from constant unorthodox movement. He never stopped using upper body movement to throw Wlad off his rhythm. Is that what you call doing nothing?
    You sound like a moron to me.
     
  15. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Lewis did not destroy Vitali, he had the fortunate chance of opening up a cut which prompted a later stoppage, it was an absolute act of randomness. Wlad was 39, was faltering as shown in his previous fights with Jennings, and his clinch fest with Povetkin, Tyson Fury is not just some prospect, he has the potential to go on and do great things in the future.