Why do people think Williams smoked Margo?

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  1. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Floyd didn't fight, Williams, Cotto or Margarito, he retired.
     
  2. TheGreat

    TheGreat Boxing Junkie banned

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    That doesn't change the fact that PBF was that man or that Williams has already beat him, IMO he needs to beat Williams if he wants to be the man.
     
  3. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Yea because when Margarito was trashing Cintron and knocking Cotto out, Williams was picking up the pieces after an embarrassment against Cotto leftovers.

    Some kinda man there. Tell him next time don't drop the ball. :good
     
  4. Fedor Em

    Fedor Em Enforcement, VRWC style Full Member

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    It was a tough win for Williams but he got the job done. I had the fight 7-5 for PW
     
  5. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    The Judge tells the truth. Tony did everything he could to try to get out of fighting Williams the first time. First he was saying who is Paul Williams, then he was saying Paul Williams doesn't bring enough money, which was a lie, he got more money fighting Paul than he would of fighting Cotto at the time. He gets his ass beat then he starts to cry about the judging.

    Now he finally beats Cotto, has two belts and Max brings up Paul and the dude gets mute on him.
     
  6. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    What a dumb mother ****er. :lol:

    Check it out dildobreath. He had Miguel Cotto on tap, a fight everyone at the time agreed was a harder fight. He could have easily ditched the belt and gone after the Cotto fight. But he didn't because he wasn't going to leave his WBO crown on the table. And he went and fought Williams.

    So don't give people that slanted, made up, goofy **** you clown. :hi:
     
  7. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    Well obviously Margarito knew which was the harder fight, which is why he tried to get out of fighting Paul, but couldn't. He was stuck because of all the crap he flung out at Mayweather about being a ducker and him being the most feared man in boxing.
     
  8. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I just re-scored the fight guys. Keep in mind I'm a huge Margarito fan.

    I scored it 7-5 Williams.

    The first 5 rounds, Williams was winning them easily with his superior reach and utlizing his jab to prevent Margarito from getting inside.

    By round 6, Margarito started landing more shots as I suspect Williams was feeling the pace and forgetting his gameplan.

    It's important to note that although Williams was the more active fighter, a heavy dose of his shots were either being blocked or were missing the target. However, I still gave him the benefit of the doubt early on and in the final round, where I felt Margarito was outworked.

    In a return bout, I could see the same happening again but I doubt Williams would be able to take all of the first 5 rounds. Margarito would most likely go 100% from the opening bell, and although Williams jab and clinching would still cause problems, Margarito would land some right hands. However, although both fighter have terrific stamina, I think it all comes down to who can keep up the pace for the full 12 rounds. If Margarito starts early, can he sustain that? If Williams is getting hit with hard chopping right hands, does he survive?

    Somebody asked how come Williams was able to take the punishment by Margarito, whereas Cotto wasn't. Miguel was hit with a lot more shots than Williams, but even in this fight, Williams looked about ready to go late in one round and early in the 11th. It's credit to him that he went on to see the fight out in the 12th.
     
  9. MancMexican

    MancMexican Blood & Guts Forever Full Member

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    Williams stayed at range and used his reach and high punchout to out point Margarito while staying the hell away from him. In other words he used his physical advantages to win a tactical battle. Margarito didn't have the skills to adapt.

    And it was a close but clear victory.

    Id favour Williams in the rematch because I cant see what Toni would do differently. Williams knows how to beat him and as great a fighter as Margo is he isnt a good enough boxer to beat someone like Williams
     
  10. booklord

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    Maybe but Margarito always seems to start slow. I even had Cintron winning the first round against him. ( and not a single round after that )
    Williams would likely win the first few rounds again. Then the pattern would likely repeat. Williams would use his workrate, arm length and height to limit Margarito's effectiveness and avoid being knocked out or hurt with the rest of the rounds would be evenly split among them. Resulting in another decision win for Williams. Margarito is an exciting fighter but his Achilles heel is a fighter with the defense skills or physical attributes ( really more the latter in Williams case ) to avoid being hurt or KO'd by him while having enough skill to be competitive in winning the rounds.
    Styles make fights. And I see William's style of fighting as simply worse for Margo than Cotto's was. Ironically enough though, I think Cotto would beat Williams as his style of fighting would be harder for Williams to defend against than Margo's.
    The rumor mill has put doubt on a Margarito-Williams rematch. Not because the fighters aren't interested but because Williams may be moving up. Williams challenge to Pavlik may not have been just smoke. Having avenged his Quintas loss Williams may be putting his welterweight days behind him and fighting at a more comfortable weight.
     
  11. DINAMITA

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    Good assessment.
     
  12. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Here's what Williams's manager said about Williams' weight and him fighting as a Welter;

    "People forget that Paul fought at middleweight for his first couple of fights. Paul has been there before. He is a boxer who can fight at middleweight or light heavyweight but can make welterweight. You would think I was lying if I told he could probably make 140. I hate it when people say that Paul has trouble making weight. He weighed 145 for the Quintana fight and look at his performance and he weighed 145 for [Antonio] Margarito,"

    "Nobody wants to fight Paul at 147 and there is no money at 154. So what do you do? You leapfrog that division [154] and take the biggest fight at middleweight. This is a fight that will not go twelve-rounds. Paul will be strong at middleweight. He'll do well and if the winner of Miguel Cotto-Antonio Margarito wants him, he'll move back down and settle the things on who the best welterweight is."

    The idea that Williams is leaving WW for good is nothing but a Top Rank fantasy.
     
  13. bxrfan

    bxrfan Sizzle Full Member

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    I love it when people say that Margarito was coming on late in the fight, but don't mention that Williams OUTFOUGHT Margarito in the 12th round and won it.
     
  14. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, Williams didn't smoke Marg but he did outclass him. I had it 8-4 with Marg winning the 12th so it was 8-3 going into the final round. That's a clear victory.
     
  15. Chibuku

    Chibuku I'm awesome Full Member

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    There was nothing close about the fight.Margaritto was well beaten and he knows it