Why do people think Williams smoked Margo?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by DINAMITA, Jul 30, 2008.


  1. mexican legend

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    He is now trying to get paid. A lot of people ducked him so he wasn't getting bigs fights with big money. Let him make his money now since he is 30 years old and fighting since he was 15. I am pretty sure he will fight Williams next year in a unification fight.
     
  2. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    From what I gathered ringside press had Margarito up because everytime Margarito hit Williams you could hear it throughout the arena.

    At home sure Williams landed more punches but they had nothing on them. And Williams just tanked the last few rounds, soaked up everything Margarito hit him with and made the distance.

    Rematch Tony needs to start fast and hit that body HARD.
     
  3. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    I never said he didn't win the 2nd. I said most accounts had Cotto winning pretty much(not neccessarily all) all of the early rounds.
     
  4. DINAMITA

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    The 2nd round was very very clearly and obviously a Margarito round.

    Going into the 11th, I had it 5-5, 95-95

    Cotto: 1,3,4,5,6
    Margarito: 2,7,8,9,10

    Equal on points, but as you can see from who won the rounds 7-10, Margarito was very much in command.

    And I can see why some would've given Margo the 6th round as well and have him 96-94 up, though I don't agree with that myself, close round though.
     
  5. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    What a surprise. I'm sure none of the fighters that Margo and his fans claimed ducked him were trying to get paid.
     
  6. Rumsfeld

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    It may not have been easy, but it was a decisive victory for Williams.

    116-112.
     
  7. teeto

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    THANK YOU, read my post #62, i had it a draw, but i may have been 1 round kind to Margo in honesty, it may have been just Williams, like i said, was a hard one to judge.
     
  8. Stezzie

    Stezzie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Exactly...I think its part of Margs stategy/fight style to get going late in the fight...if he came out blazing then maybe he wouldn't finish as strong. Marg lost because he was out fought. I made $200 bucks on the night they first fought and will make another $200 when Marg loses the rematch...

    Marg is good...but he is not the best and will never be on top of the division until beat PW...
     
  9. David_TheMan

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    So I take it you have no problem with Floyd not fighting him?
     
  10. Stezzie

    Stezzie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why not 9-3 for Margo?

    If your going to be delusional why not go all out...?
     
  11. mexican legend

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    Floyd is retired and as far as I am concerned he is irrelavant to boxing.
     
  12. David_TheMan

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    you didn't answer my question. Did you or did you not have a problem with Floyd not fighting Margarito?
     
  13. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I don't think he smoked him just beat him at his own game clearly. I also feel that in the rematch Williams will win by a wider margin because he has the size, workrate, chin and stamina to deal with Margo and he is only going to get better in the first fight he was green. He's learning to fight taller and will keep Margo on the outside with his superior reach and jab not allowing Margo to come inside where he can work his magic. If I was on team Margo I wouldn't be so quick to fight Williams just yet, I'd pursue a rematch with Cotto a much easier fight or look at someone else.
     
  14. sues2nd

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    The fight, tho close, was clear to Williams. I had it 8-4 but could easily see 7-5.

    Anyone who said that Williams SMOKED Margo is clearly just trying to discredit Tony for some stupid reason (or trying to overrate Williams). Williams was impressive in throwing a vast amount of punches and taking some HUGE shots very well...but that in no way lends credance to the arguement that he won easily.

    As for if they fight again (which, I am sorry, but this is the fight that SHOULD happen...DLH? Money and name rec are the ONLY reasons Margo takes that fight), you have to favor Williams on styles and history.

    Williams throws a ridiculous amount of punches from the outside...couple that with his jab (which is good...not great, but fast and crisp), slightly above average power and speed and he makes it near impossible to get inside on him. Williams struggles when is faced with a fighter who uses movement well to keep him off balance and make it so he cant get off a his normal high rate....Tony isnt that type of fighter (which is why he averaged 100 punches a round in the first fight vs him).

    Margo on the other hand throws a ridiculous amount of punches with great power from the inside and struggles when kept at a distance. He can take any punch that is thrown at him (I think he may be the Mexican Michael Myers...), but can he get inside enough vs Williams to win?

    Williams already has shown that he can take what Margo throws (he got hit with some BOMBS in the first fight)...and you have to ask yourself how much will he score while Tony is trying to get inside??? Williams definately aint stopping Margo...but I can see him winning a clear but close one again. Its tougher to imagine a Margo victory.

    Fact is, Margo is the clear 1a in the division, with Williams the clear 1b. If this fight doesnt happen...it doesnt make any sense. The first one was a hell of a fight to watch (didnt they throw like 2000 punches combined???)....lets hope they do it again.

    And again...I agree with the original poster...no way was this an "easy" fight or a fight in which either man dominated the other. It was a tough, close fight...one that Williams won clearly...but in no way SMOKED Margo...
     
  15. Ambition_Def

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    Actually Sues, Margarito was way below his average. I don't remember exactly how many punches he threw but it wasn't 90/round. Actually HBO has it listed as 53/round.

    That fight was simply bizarre in my eyes. There was really no good reason why Tony wasn't hitting him inside. Paul tried to give him movement but Tony was getting close. He just wasn't punching enough. He was throwing one punch at a time and trying to hurt Williams with every shot.

    I honestly buy that they started slow and that Margarito knew it. And I do honestly think in a rematch Margarito would be on Paul right from the getgo. I see Margarito getting a stoppage in a real war of attrition sometime around the 11th. Williams won't make it the distance this time around.