Why do RING magazine still recognize Alvarez as champion ?

You're assuming there was a low ball offer in mind. Having 15 days following a successful defense before automatically going to purse bid is absurd. (and it was 15 days) Canelo was not given a reasonable amount of time by the WBC to negotiate the fight with Golovkin following the Khan victory. He was dealing with a legal matter involving his former promoter during that time, and there was no reason for the WBC to give him that timetable. We knew Canelo was going to fight again in September, had the WBC just let the two fighters negotiate for September, there probably wouldn't have been any issues with them agreeing to terms for a September 2016 bout. But the WBC started dictating to Canelo telling him when he needed it done by which forced him to vacate because he wasn't going to be pressured to negotiate a fight sooner than it needed to be or forced into a purse bid situation.

And 15 days was clearly sooner than it needed to be, because look at the situation right now. Canelo and Golovkin haven't even started to negotiate, Gomez from GBP said he's hoping that they start negotiations by the end of this month. OK? Rewind two years, the WBC was telling Canelo he needed to reach an agreement with Golovkin essentially by the end of this week for a September fight.

Clearly it was an unreasonable timetable which forced Canelo to vacate because purse bids greatly benefitted Golovkin.

 

I almost agree with you on the timetable. It was added pressure on Canelo. What I don agree with is that a purse bid "benefitted GGG". The word i would use instead would be a purse bid would be FAIR to GGG. Hell, I wish more fights would just go to purse bid.

For GGG, it takes any sort of weight drain off the table so that both fighters can come in at whatever weight they are comfortable at within the weight limit. An it gives the champion the Lions share while still being a decent offer to the challenger at 75/25.

So which do you think Canelo didn't like? A fair weight or a fair split? Do you think Canelo wanted to drain GGG or do you think they wanted to low ball him at the 90/10 number Oscar had been quotes at?

 

Neither, I think it was the fact that he was being disrespected and pressured to negotiate a fight before he was ready or able to negotiate the fight.

 

I think we disagree here. And it's a difference of opinion. And that's ok.

My opinion is that Canelo did not want to give GGG the mandated split since Oscar had been quotes at 90/10 and I don't think canelo wanted to fight GGG at the full 160 at that time given he went back to 154 right after the Khan fight. Either Canelo didn't feel he was ready for 160 OR he wanted to try and drain GGG down.

 

Those are theories that a lot of people had, and fans believing that caused them to criticize Canelo, saying he was scared to fight GGG (in general, or at 160 or that he wanted a better split).

Personally I think had the WBC not issued the timetable, the fight could have been made. I do think Canelo would have agreed to fight him at 160, but a lower weight may have been used as a negotiating tactic to get a better split. (after all GGG did say he would fight Mayweather at 154 "no problem" lol)

 

What you are neglecting to mention is Canelo promised he would fight GGG after Khan and was only allowed an exemption from fighting GGG his mandatory which GGG became way back in 2015 when Cotto had the title. Canelo knew long before the Khan fight that he would need to negotiate immediately after the fight and chose not to.
Even though he said Mexicans don't F around and did just that and ducked out.

 

So this is what you get up to these days huh?! I like it.

 

Man B.E, I could not imagine these forums without you... Maybe Sugar Nicolai Valuev can make a comeback and put the heavies on notice!

 

Sure those are theories..just like yours. No one can really know what their thoughts were. My personal feelings are that Canelo wanted to try and drain GGG so he's not at his best. I do think they wanted to try and low ball him as well given Oscars quote of 90/10.

Maybe GGG's team finally had enough with all the step asides and pressured to force the mandatory. Maybe GGGs Tema felt that was their best way to negotiate.

What we do know is that Canelo and his team KNEW the mandatory was due.

 

Yeah, but....

 

Ask him what the BBC of the BBC thread meant to him? lol