Why do so few think haye will beat wlad?.

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  1. celtic tiger

    celtic tiger Member Full Member

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    This is a fighter who was beaten by journeymen fighters such as brewster and sanders. . Lets not forget he was also floored numerous times by sam peter. The point is that wlad is nowhere near a great fighter. He has height and reach and a decent jab and right hand that is it.
     
  2. FINITO

    FINITO Boxing Junkie banned

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    Alot of them are just hating on him for having a big mouth.. Im not though. Ive always been a fan of hayemaker and im rooting for him bigtime!!!

    War Haye!
     
  3. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You define his jab and right hand as merely decent?

    BWAAA-HAAAA! :lol:
     
  4. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    Haye all day. we need this for boxing
     
  5. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I heven't seen a whole lot of Haye but I am extremly impressed with what I have seen. From what I have been told though, Haye has a questionable chin which can be a very big problem if you are fighting Wlad.
     
  6. thehitman

    thehitman italian dragon Full Member

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    klit has nothing no speed no rhythem and no variation to his fighting
    its throw a **** jab hold it on opponants head then throw righty hand, which is fine when fighting fat bums like hes done his whole career but when you got haye stood infront of you who moves shifts and is never still is a differant story.
    haye by ko 4
     
  7. celtic tiger

    celtic tiger Member Full Member

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    Yes decent . I mean it is not quick any fighter with head movement could avoid it easily but sadly the heavyweights are so fat and out of shape they cannot even move their heads anymore . If you want to see real jabbers i suggest you watch some footage of muhammed ali , larry holmes, sonny liston even carl williams , now those guys could jab they were lighting fast jabs and they threw them like wips . wlad paws with his jab . Wlad sucks joe calzaghes trainers said that he is the worst heavyweight since primero de canearo and he is damn right.
     
  8. Kid Cuba

    Kid Cuba Boxing Junkie banned

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    Wlad has never faced anyone like Haye, and has been beaten by lesser opposition. Haye will win this one no matter what the haters say.
     
  9. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Height, reach, "decent jab" and right hand will take you a long way in boxing, especially in the heavyweight division. Haye was stopped by wee Carl Thompson, and was knocked down by Monte Barrett who was ko'd in the 2nd round by Cliff Couser. What you have here is a pick'em fight whereas the result will be decided by whose glass jaw will shatter first. Besides, at heavyweight, Haye has never beaten anyone except Couser ko victim Barrett and is still an unknown comodity at heavyweight.
     
  10. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Excuse me did you just refer to Wlad's jab as ****? WTF are you talking about. He completly dominates guys with his jab busting them up all the way and he has probably droped just as many guys with his left hook as with his right hand. His left hook is so underrated it's pathetic.

    Often times he throws the left hand making it look like he's going to jab and at the very last nanosecond he flips it into a left hook.

    Chris byrd was brilliant defensivly and he moved and shifted and Wlad was still able to find him quite easily.

    If anything will be Wlad's downfall in this fight it will be his defensive flaws and stamina issues but his offensive arsenal is probably the best of any heavyweight out there today with the exception that his height makes it almost impossible for him to body punch.
     
  11. thehitman

    thehitman italian dragon Full Member

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    his jab is pathetic, there is no snap or speed to it the only reason it hits people is cos his opponants are to fat to get out the way of it. haye will slip 9 out of 10 of his jabs and counter. good night klit you have been exposed
     
  12. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're right. Chris byrd is the slowest fattest heavyweight in the history of the sport.
     
  13. US Marines

    US Marines New Member Full Member

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    Getting knocked out by Brewster is no shame and it was due to serious fatigue, thats not an excuse its Wladimirs fault and LB won the fight. Sanders just destroyed him with left hands he did not see but Wlad always fights back even if ineffective. The Purity loss was when he was young and his corner threw in the towel when their guy was spent. Peter did not legitimately knock Wlad down 3 times, watch the fight. When did getting knocked down become the most humiliating thing in boxing, thats the game dude.

    He has a great jab and a great straight right plus a great hook off the jab that he does not use as much as he should. Vitali is definitely more versatile with a wide array of punches from crazy angles too.
     
  14. Mohak

    Mohak RIP Smokin' Joe Full Member

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    Because Wlad is good and bigger than Haye. I still think Haye's going to win though.
     
  15. Williams27

    Williams27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wlad is a very good boxer, but Haye will be his toughest challange to date. I am sure that if Wlad had Manny Steward with him his whole career he wouldnt have been KO'd like he was. The Puritty loss was a lucky punch, but the Brewster and Sanders losses shouldnt have happened. I give Haye a good chance of winning because of his speed and power. Most people dont give Haye a chance because he has a questionable chin, he hasnt done much at Heavyweight, and Wlad has dominated everyone put in front of him since winning the titles.