Why do so many Americans (like Gary Russell Jr) only fight once a year?

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  1. MrSpeaker89

    MrSpeaker89 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Surely that must be frustrating regardless of whatever you get paid?
    If I was a fighter in my prime, I'd want out minimum twice a year if not three times.
    Thurman, Davis etc seem to be following this trend too.
     
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  2. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    Americans are lazy obese-a-trons, but dunno if that's related.

    :nusenuse:
     
  3. tommyg6

    tommyg6 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That PBC money is too good and made most of their fighters complacent as a result imo.
     
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  4. Wasteman

    Wasteman Certified Wasteman Full Member

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    ^ this.
     
  5. Stu007

    Stu007 Member Full Member

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    Are they on a fixed retainer? Surely they'd get paid more if they fought more
     
  6. Draperys

    Draperys Member Full Member

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    They’re happy putting money ahead of big fights and a future legacy too be proud of
     
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  7. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    He got 1.3 million or something like that for his last fight. Compare that to the purses for the the last HBO card with Estrada, Ioka, and Nietes.
     
  8. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    You're right that it's a PBC issue, but the reality is they can't afford to pay the purses they do to their guys 3-4 times a year.

    Al makes his money off of each fighters purse (which is why he pays them as much as he does in the first place). He'd schedule them more if he could because the more money PBC pays them, the more Al makes.

    He's the manager, not the owner.He couldn't care less about corporate profits so long as the lights stay on and he can keep getting paid. If he paid them lower purses, PBC would earn more, and Al would make less. And he's too shrewd for that.
     
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  9. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    PBC= Pretty Boring Champions :deal:
     
  10. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    GRJ took a massive blow with that Loma loss, I think he was obsessed about keeping his 0 and when he lost it his world fell apart, he can still have an amazing career and in my opinion he has the talent to be p4p top 10.
     
  11. highlander

    highlander Active Member Full Member

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    too many fighters today are not fighters. if they are undefeated, they want to stay that way. and there are two reasons why. fight less, less chances to lose is the first. then they wait to make big fights with opponents whom they are just past their prime and are now ready to be taken down.
    imagine if hagler, sugar robinson, ali etc..... all took a safety first approach to their careers?

    it is one of the reasons why boxing is tanking in popularity here in the states, sadly.
     
  12. DoubleJ

    DoubleJ Active Member Full Member

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    They are all signed with Haymon who has too many fighters to put on a limited number of cards. He would need to cut their pay and stack multiple champions on his cards, but the fat pay days are reason they sign with him.

    So we get guys who aren't even huge draws fighting once a year.
     
  13. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    It baffles me. I can only think it must be greed that keeps fighters sidelined for so much of their primes. In the past they'd fight ten times a year. Even with high quality opposition, which most of these guys don't follow, you could get four or five fights a year. I think Mayweather said something like it takes six months to set up a pay per view, but what about all the fighters who aren't on pay per view who crawl at an old man's pace?

    All you ever hear from these pussies is that they want to make more money. Well, you know there's a simple way to do that. Fight more often. Instead of picking up one or two paychecks a year you could be picking up four or five. That's why players of other sports make so much more than boxers. Basketball and Football players take the field a dozen times a year. Baseball players play hundreds of games. The damn commentators like Jim Lampley make more than the fighters because they appear 20 times a year. Fill up your dance card. Can't get that fight you want? Be the terror of your division. Fight everybody. Fight opponents multiple times. Get out there and get seen by the public. Raise a fanbase and your marquee value.
     
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  14. DonnyMo

    DonnyMo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    African Americans have a group think mentality ->All sign with Haymon -> Haymon always pays good money ->but has so so few TV dates per year. It's a vicious cycle that won't end any time soon.

    Yet we still have to listen to all the crying about how much "exposure and hype" the Eastern Euros get. Welllll.....that's because they put in the work to fight 3-4 times per year with real promoters and as a result mainstream fans actually know who they are.

    Looking forward to #SpenceVS.Porter in 2020.