Why Do So Many Discredit Paul Williams

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  1. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    That is a great point and I wonder that myself.

    Did anyone catch how ESPN totally ignored Paul Williams last night? Joe Tessitore and Nate Campbell were talking about the Judah fight and they were both talking about how Clottey needs to be the guy Margarito fights. What the hell, is everyone trying to ignore Paul Williams in hopes that he goes away?
     
  2. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    cause his personality = berto's

    and berto is younger i guess boxing is putting their faith in berto to be the

    young, black, outspoken, offensively minded fighter
     
  3. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    I might be wrong, and hopefully Berto proves me to be so, but I don't think Berto has what it takes to be an elite WW. I just can't see it.
     
  4. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    what makes you think that
     
  5. ScouseLad

    ScouseLad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why are you so obsessed with skin colour?
     
  6. David_TheMan

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    His chin is weak, he doesn't have exceptional power, he doesn't have exceptional technique, and I think he is a little too cocky about where he actually is in the WW scene.

    He said after Forbes he will be ready for WW belts, but I don't see it. I can't see him taking out Collazo, Quintana, or Judah.
     
  7. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    dont take everything to heart so much man....

    hes been dropped once on a flash ko.. it came outa nowhere before & after that point hes been fine

    his offensive technique is definitely way above par

    his strength is also above par

    and hes accurate on his ww position ... if people want to fight him now (clottey) whats wrong with him having a goal of mid late 09 ....


    i think its fair
     
  8. David_TheMan

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    He was dropped once because, at least in every fight I've seen of his, he gets cocky and reckless and leaves his hands low. He tries to be a RJJ and he doesn't have all of Roy's abilities.

    As for taking on the elite WWs, I don't see how anyone he has fought is helping him get ready for the top WWs. Forbes is not going to help him, Cosme isn't either. He should be taking on the likes of Collazo, Lujan, or Cintron. That is the way I see it atleast.
     
  9. walk with me

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    your right about the first comment.. but hes only 24... that kind of discipline comes with practice .. give him some time.

    and of all the elite welters the youngest are 27 (cotto & pw) so they have a 3 year curve on berto....

    i mean he could do 2 fights in 09.. so maybe he takes cintron mid 09.... then clottey late 09... seems feasible to me even though clottey will be a tough cookie to swallow
     
  10. charlievint

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    I expressed that. It's nothing he's shown in the ring. It's swagger or lack ther of when speaking about himself and fielding questions from interviewers. They ask him if he wants to fight Marg or Cotto and he says in a few fights he'll be ready or says that in 2009 it will be his year. Comments like that have me questioning his championship spirit and heart. In the ring he looks very good. He has all the tools he needs to be a champion, but to be an ATG or a future Hall of famer you need a little more than tools. He could just be modest, but he's holding a title. He can't be acting like a prospect when he's got that belt around his waist.
     
  11. charlievint

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    I actually catch that vibe myself. I don't get that Vibe from Paul and Paul has a loss. Berto is still undefeated but it's his demeanor that has me 2nd guessing his ultimate potential.
     
  12. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Berto is very talented and a good fighter but I think Clottley would destroy him. Judah is a good test, but I wouldnt even favor him over Judah...which again...is not a bad thing. Judah is still top 10 material.
     
  13. the_what

    the_what Bolo Punch KO Full Member

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    Because Paul Williams looks like Lamar Odom. And we hate Lamar Odom.
     
  14. NeckBreaknAiken

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    You should have seen him before the Quintana I fight in Temeculah, CA. He came out there and some people were yellin "OCHO CINCO!" We was crackin' the **** up!
     
  15. walk with me

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