Why do so many K2 opponents complain about negotiations?

You're aware that Haye has the same number of belts as Vitaly?

Wlad has 2 (the WBO which is about half a belt IMO). So, out of the major 3 belts, there are 3 champions.

Tell me again why Haye is considered the challenger? (For the record, I wanted haye to do well, but his lack of fighting has pissed me off, so I'm no real fan of his).

Because he's not THE REAL champ? Wlad is? no, sorry, it's Vitali. No, it's Wlad.

3 guys, 3 belts, and 2 of them will never fight each other. Haye is quite within his rights to expect parity. Especially when you take in his cruiserweight history.

 

As for Povetkin? I have no excuse for that. Weak as ****.

 

the only thing rushman, is most of the guys that fight the brothers are ****, and know they won't win.

So they'll sign anything to do with "if you win" clauses (multiple rematches, options etc) because they know it's a longshot.

The guys that baulk at selling their soul are the ones that either have a chance, or think they do. They understandably aren't willing to put it all on the line, win the fight, and still have the Klitchko's make a mountain of money from their next few fights - which are probably either against the Klitchko's or opponents of their choosing.

Can you imagine Holyfield/Lewis in the 90's saying to any prospective opponents

"Yeah, you can fight me. But my company promotes it, and you get paid **** all. If you beat me, then you've got to to fight Holy/lewis in your next fight. if you win that, then you have to fight me again. All the while i promote all of the fights, take the lions share of the profits, and of course, if you lose any of those 3 fights you're out the ****ing door"

 

Many?

Only Haye and boxers who works with Sauerland and Don King.

 

And yet you ignored that the klits offer haye a 50/50 split with no option and haye ignored it and yet instead fought harrison? But thats ok? How about when Vitali offer Valuev 2.5 million (biggest pay day in valueve career) but yet he decline? It's funny that boxingfan ****** talk about most of the fighters (besides lewis) saying the klits contract gave them low money? well who has they beat before they were offer to fight any klits? Byrd back then was a nobody. Tua hasn't done anything. Povetkin hasn't done anything lately. Chisora hasn't beaten a real fighter. Solis best win is freaking Austin lol.

 

Not sure how true the money you say went, but for tua, he now more a name then a talent, so 400k might not be that far off, an for his fight with cameron, Well guess who is well known, how much did cameron get, 50k:yep

Peters was beat by both brothers, an i am sure 1.5 was by far his best offer with the threat he poses, in other words, maybe hayes could top that, but the threat is not worth it.

 

Sure, in a perfect world every Klitschko and Haye opponent would get enough money for the rest of their life but boxing is business and charity is for actually poor people.

For a half million bucks I would take a face breaking beating and I'm not even in a need of extra money.

Here whiners are crying for fighters that don't bother to even cut down their beers and burgers to look like a professional athletes in front of tens of millions people. After the fight the same group of losers write with their sweating fingers that those fat *******s weren't even worth of a title match in the first place. Weird, huh?

Here's how bad the things are under one promoter:

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UFC 125 “Resolution” payouts:
Frankie Edgar -- $102,000 drew with Gray Maynard -- $52,000
Brian Stann -- $42,000 (including $21,000 win bonus) def. Chris Leben -- $46,000
Thiago Silva -- $110,000 (including $55,000 win bonus) def. Brandon Vera -- $60,000
Dong Hyun Kim -- $70,000 (including $35,000 win bonus) def. Nate Diaz -- $33,000
Clay Guida -- $62,000 (including $31,000 win bonus) def. Takanori Gomi -- $50,000
Jeremy Stephens -- $36,000 (including $18,000 win bonus) def. Marcus Davis -- $31,000
Dustin Poirier -- $8,000 (including $4,000 win bonus) def. Josh Grispi -- $15,000
Brad Tavares -- $16,000 (including $8,000 win bonus) def. Phil Baroni -- $25,000
Diego Nunes -- $20,000 (including $10,000 win bonus) def. Mike Brown -- $23,000
Daniel Roberts -- $24,000 (including $12,000 win bonus) def. Greg Soto -- $8,000
Jacob Volkmann -- $24,000 (including $12,000 win bonus) def. Antonio McKee -- $15,000
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Those guys don't complain and they are in phenomenal shape. Why? Because they actually come to win and they love and respect their sport.

 

You're pathetic jack. I'll tell you what's going on. Öner is broke and knows he will get his head handed to him on a plate in a purse bid. Obviously Öner is unhappy and scared letting this goto a purse bid.

The Juan Carlos Gomez (who is also Cuban and also was promoted by Öner) negotiations also failed multiple times and Öner threatened to let this goto the purse bid. And then in the *LAST MOMENT* they happily signed the contract and all was well.

Gomez earned 1.2 Million EUR = 1.65 million USD that night. Get the picture?

Solis is completely unknown in Europe and the US. Neither is HBO interested nor does he guarantee great ratings for RTL in Germany. That's why he gets **** offers from the Klits and from anybody else in the world. Valuev was a much worse boxer but he had better name recognition in Germany that's why he was offered $2.5 million Dollars remember?

 

K2

Only someone Gay names them like that. Oh no wonder.

 

I'd just like to say that you, Rushman, are are child molesting dog ******.

 

Daft Brits keep counting the Klitschkos' money. Are you worried their boxing proceeds will go into financing the Invincible Armada or what?atsch

 

The biggest disappointment in this current era is that we don't have a real #1.

The guy most people, including The Ring and me as well actually, consider to be the #1 guy...still would (and has) happily say his brother is better and would never fight him.

Not exactly "I can lick any son-of-a-***** in the house", is it?

"I can lick any son-of-a-***** except THAT guy who I think is much better and I won't fight him." Blood is thicker than water an all but you'd never have this situation otherwise and I still think they should've fought, even if it was a crap tepid fight.

The Klitschko brothers being champions together has been a milestone for them and the history books, but has led to stagnation. We haven't had The Man since Lewis retired...we've had to mainly make do with The Men.

 

Could be worse, could be KY.

(I can just imagine Haye fans wishing they had the wit to think of that.... 'KY productions: each contract comes with some ****')

 

It's an interesting situation, and one that I'm not unhappy with. I'm glad to have witnessed it.

But it's a good thing that it is a rare sort of situation. I think people feel better knowing that there is one champ, and it is frustrating that the two best fighters can't test each other out.

I don't agree that having two top dogs in the division leads to stagnation - on the contrary, if there were heaps of contenders then we would have twice as many big, excellent fights.

I also don't agree that the division is necessarily stagnant. The Klits are fairly active.
However, if the division is stagnant, I think that would be more about the dominance that the Klitschkos have had over the division. When you know that the champ is going to win every fight, then it kinda takes the thrill out of it a little bit. When even the challengers give up before the fight, without even trying, and obviously with no self-belief that they can win? Yeah, that could lead to stagnation.
Again, that doesn't come down to there being two of them, it comes down to opposition who are mentally weak and who don't take their training seriously. Those who aren't fat seem to be afraid.
Adamek seems to be both fit and unafraid, but if he takes too long before challenging one of the Klits I will have to wonder about him as well.

 

5 stars! :good