Why do so many people on ESB think Calzaghe is P4P #1 or #2?

well if it marks skill then calzaghe easily beats most of the compertion in the pound for pound ranking order, if it rates in over long term achievement then calzaghe will be marked high aswell , if it is ranked over quality of oppersition he will be marked lower , but lacy was a heavily backed favourite in that fight! dnt forget that and chris Eubank was always a dangerous competititor , Mikkel Kessler in his prime a younger , hungrier and dangerous fight was a real talent and calzaghe fought great again! , Calzaghe has a brilliant technique which includes loads of skill and determination to wear down his opponent which he does in most of his fights , he is a great fighter and at 35 and undefeated deserves his respect to be number 2 or 3

cos it doesnt matter if u fight somebody who is crap you get hit in the right place you go down! any 1 of those fighters could of beat him but calzaghe was to good! at

 

its a fair analysis , i am a calzaghe fan and i would never hide the fact he makes lots of mistakes.

but against that if calzaghe wanted to be a pure boxer, use his foot and hand speed just to give angles get in and get out and take no chances he would not make hardly any mistakes and would not get hit.

its because he is prepared to get hit to get his own shots off he makes all his mistakes , plus the fact he is so eager to get off he sometimes does not think about it being a natural fighter he just lets his hands go even when his feet and body shape are all wrong.

makes him look awkward , but you can see the way when focused he can walk in on an opponent slipping and working at the same time that he is a hard man to keep off.

i rank him 3rd behind mayweayher and paq.

paq is above him because his resume is superior.

but with calzaghe you have to look at him as a whole and what he brings to the table and and then break down the individual flaws to see what type of opponent can take advantage.

he can box from the inside with both hands, combos/variety/speed/angles/head movement /willing to take risks and get hit to get off/when hoit fires back every single time/

on the outside he can be an in and out fighter using footspeed/handspeed/angles/jab/keep it long/slip oncoming bombs /does not get flustered when under heavy artilary/

then you have things like experience /prodigous workrate against every style , be it brawler/cagey/boxer/bomber/spoiler.

then load these up against his faults and see do they hurt him.

some calzaghe fights

eubank-despite always hearing eubank was old and weight drained
eubank was 31 v calzaghe and fought at a high tempo for 12 rounds never slacking.

anyone who has seen all eubanks fights will tell you he threw twice as much leather v calzaghe than he did normally.

brewer was a good example of calzaghe , who could have easily won the fight from the poutside staying in the pocket for all 12 rounds and loving and enjoying having a tear up.

woodhall and veit 2 for his footwork and outside abilty and cornering abilty v talllong fighters/
prime sheika a box /puncher when calzaghe did a bit fronm the outside and a bit on the inside.

mrgitchan , despite not known across the pond was a strongman with big power and calzaghe boxed well of the backfoot for the whole fight to the ko .

 

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I haven't seen too many people rank him as P4P #1, but 2 or 3 is very defensible - and frankly, if you don't have him in the top 5, you're clearly underrating him, and probably a "hatter."

 

What never ceases to amaze me is how wins against Lacy and Kessler have become almost worthless. The hypocrisy of it all makes me chuckle

So nearly every American on here picks Lacy to win (whilst drooling over his muscles), he get's schooled as we all told you he would and suddenly he was never good

So in truth, either Lacy was a good fighter that got his career ended by Joe Calzaghe, OR you are a bunch of cnuts that overhype your fighters yet accuse us of doing just that

 

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He's definately top 5, but has not done enough to be seen as #1 or 2.

 

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What am I talking about? I'm talking about the hypocrisy dished out by a lot of Americans on this forum. They all make their picks, disapear for a few days later and then have the nerve to say Lacy was overrated. Yes, he was overrated, by yourselves

You seem quite respectful, but there are still plenty that are questioning Joe. Usually the very same people that pick him to lose all these fights

It's a joke, and I truely believe he'll never be seen as the great he should be no matter what he does in the future