Why do so many pro boxers simply train not enough?

cuz they done seen what a fat out of shape heavyweight can do w/ 1 punch (rahman)

 

Rahman was in the best shape of his life that night though, was he not?

 

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Remember him? Tell me how well those muscles worked out for him against Joe Calzaghe.

 

Threadstarter still clearly believes that being almost close to muscle bound/looking like a bodybuilder is the way forward for boxers. Take a look at the top boxers in the world at the minute, they are not big muscular guys, they aren't even close to it.

Example: Khan, Pacquiao and Mayweather. 3 different physiques, none are big muscular guys, all look small when out of training. Pacquiao enters training camp with virtually no definition whatsoever, I presume Mayweather and Khan are the same. Khan enters the ring, and he doesn't look in the greatest shape ever, but is he trained and prepared for 12 rounds of boxing? Yes.

Looking good is always great, but boxing training is not there to look good...if you have never done boxing training before, give it a go...see how many coaches have you weight training to bulk you up. I'd take a guess at very few.

 

Good example with Calzaghe, he trained like a mad man and he never looked like much physically. Lacy claims he didn't lift weights either, just goes to show that genetics play a large part in how someone looks. I have mates who do bodybuilding routines and dabble with roids and they have nothing on me when it comes to aesthetics, as a teenager I developed large muscular arms without doing anything. My Dad is 60 and has been smoking and drinking all his life. Doesn't work out or do anything physical and he has muscular arms still. Genetics play a large part in how you look.

 

Better to undertrain then overtrain, you overtrain oscar de la hoya vs pac is what you get,
Also muscle mass takes too much oxygen
Afyer 12 rounds david tua cant lift his arms
Jean pascal gasses often

You need a master train to perform at that level for 12 rounds emmanuel stewart dont even bother
Custamato was either a legend ahead or his time or tyson had the testerone levels of an 19 year old to work with so much muscle, being he couldnt stop fornicating i suppose his test levels were crazy

 

I dont think the thread starter has for once suggested a good boxer requires a body builder physique. Just that they should be in shape and when that is the case you do see muscle definition.

Guys like Pac, Khan and Mayweather are muscular...no they're not 'big' but they have defined muscles - they have little body fat hiding them. Why? Because they train hard and cut fat and water. Yes they will be a lot smoother when not in camp because they wont be training as much, or watching their diets. But when in camp they have to. They have to make weight limits! This is why they're not big...how can they be? How can they fight at 140-147 and be big? They'd have to be 4ft tall to have really large muscles and still come in at those weights...but thats not what the OP was saying. You can see 2 guys and for most part if one is defined n muscular (like most good boxers tend to be) and one is a lot smoother or even has a belly on him its indicative that he's NOT in good shape. Carrying excess dead weight like fat doesn't help you long into a fight as you start to fatigue...you start to feel those extra dead pounds on you.

Nigel Benn, Haggler, Pac, Tyson, Khan, Haye, Bruno, etc etc all had good physical condition. Even Lennox you could see when fighting had a decent physique...no not body builder esque but clearly in shape. I think the correct term is "athletic". Tony Tubbs, the nipple man(Arreloa) and James Toney are two typical fighters that carried too much lard in the ring with them...it never helps them. If they were a stone or 2 lighter it wouldnt go against them..it would help them! In fact Chris Arreola is acknowledging this now with his renewed vigour to get back into proper fighting shape!

Boxers dont need body builder physiques...they need athletic physiques. And all the good ones usually do have! The smaller weights cant be too big quite simply because they have a weight limit to keep to..but they're always athletic. Many fighters in the lighter weights may walk around 20+ pounds bigger than their fight weight - they're bigger men cutting fat n water from their bodies to fight at lesser weights. Why do many fighters pull body builder type poses on the weigh in scales? Because they're in shape and they know it! So they show off their muscles.

 

Imagine a prime and the fittest version of Tyson, in the ring against the Arreola hahahaha :hey

 

These muscle served jeff very well early in his career, his muscle were not his issue, his issue was he bought into his own hype and started be believe he was one punch KO artist. Against C level competition , hype and power was something to fear but against elite fighter it was nothing . I still wonder what jeff could have been if he stayed with Bloodworth instead switching trainers.

 

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I know what the threadstarters point is, you seemed to have missed mine though. His opening post contains a video of a very muscular man, titled 'Top 7 muscle gaining exercises'.

Here is my response...

...like I said, gaining muscle in bulk like that is rarely benefitial in boxing, whether it be Featherweight, Middleweight, or Heavyweight. Boxers can definitely do weights, I don't believe in the myth that boxers shouldn't do weights...it has to be sports specific though.

I have seen a number of very muscular boxers at Light Welter/Welterweight...Juan Urango being an example, now he wasn't muscle bound, but there was unnecessary muscle there (for a boxer anyway). Sure he looked in top, top condition like the threadstarter has been talking about. But compare him to say Khan at 140lbs. IMO Khan has never looked in as good a shape as Urango has, but who would you put your money on going the 12 rounds more comfortably at a higher pace? Boxing skills, opponents, etc aside.

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Now everyones different, everyone reacts differently to training, body shape, etc. But if I had to take a guess at who was doing less weights, who was doing sports specific training, who was doing strength and conditioning training...I would say Khan. This is how majority of boxers in this weight class should look (obviously some will be more toned than others, etc)...but looking good body wise gets you nowhere in boxing. Training to be a boxer, and getting the right training (whether you look in shape or not) does.

 

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