Why do so many trainers seem useless in the corner?

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  1. Zone36

    Zone36 Member Full Member

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    I've been watching a lot of fights recently and so many trainers don't seem to do anything to help the fighter.

    Here's my example of a good corner. Freddie Roach
    With all the fights I've see with Khan or Pacquiao, even if they are winning, he's always telling them to make some sort of adjustments. Like when he throws this punch to this... When you feel the ropes immediately turn away...

    But some corners are just yelling. Come on! You're bigger than him! He's getting tired! You can do this. If you want something concrete watch the Malliangi Khan fight. I was thinking the whole fight, is his corner going to say something useful?

    Who are some of the better corners?

    Also who are more of the crap corners?
     
  2. v2k987

    v2k987 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I guess most of the work is done in the gym and there is not much a trainer can really say to change the course of a fight if in fact his fighter is being outclassed.
     
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    many of them are not very experienced and do not understand that boxing is a sport of hitting and not getting hit. It is not about taking any fight, it is about building a guy's experience and getting him better. On the west coast where I live some gyms seem to focus on taking punches in order to give them, which is exciting but fighters have a few good wars and then they are diminished. It is rare to get a guy like an Emanual Steward who understands boxing and using a jab to open up punches. Being aggresive and still not getting hit. It is an art. Any guy can say go in there and throw punches and see if you knock the guy out. That is why we have so many guys 10-12 (3).
     
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  6. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Many fans think the corner's job is simply to tell the fighter what to do between the rounds, but this is horribly wrong. The trainer goes through the same 6 weeks of camp preparing for the same fighter, building the gameplan, watching all excercises and sparring, doing the padwork etc, so when the fight is actually on, there should be no confusion. If the fight goes wrong however and the game plan is f*cked, usually there's little to do to turn around in one minute that doesn't work after 6 weeks. In these situations, trainers psychological help could be more important than a simple technical-tactical advice - if it was that easy to "throw the overhand right" or "step aside and counter the left hook", they wouldn't even need a conversation. The desperation in the corner usually hits in when the other corner has the fight in the bag, that is when you often see the fighter looking at the trainer "I f*cking know what to do, but it doesn't work/I can't make it work".
     
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    Round1gymDC Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Zab Judahs dad is has th worst ratio of boxer/trainer ratio his son is so much better that he is as a trainer it's sad. Judah has been winning fight off of pure atheltisim and talent.
     
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  9. dodmoor

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    "Keep boxing that mo****a"
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  10. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Loew gives some of the best tactical advice I have ever heard.

    '' Kelly, you've got to double the f**king jab!"

    Its brilliant.
     
  11. harvinmagler

    harvinmagler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    kevin cunningham is one of the best out there at the moment
     
  12. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    Well, I'm not a fan of Jack Loew either, but "doubling the ****ing jab" is a pretty standard response to a moving opponent looking to counter over a single, which you cretins would probably realise if you actually knew **** about boxing.
     
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    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    Nazim is considered a great trainer but most of his in-between-rounds chat is just inspirational blabber with the odd pertinent technical point tossed in on occasion.
     
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    "double the ****ing jab"

    "drink some water, baby!" usually followed by "i'm gonna pull you out, baby!"
     
  15. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    This is the key to good corner work in my opinion. Being a motivator.

    Jesse Reid was one of the best I've seen. Trained 23 world champions, 9 of them he developed and he was always great in the corner.