Why do some people think Canelo was not on the juice for the first GGG fight?

Nope, Pacquiao flat out refused random testing and had multilple excuses why he wouldn't or couldn't submit to randome testing. some of his excuses were "he is afraid of needles", "blood tests weaken him", "Pac is running for president, can't take orders from Floyd", not that Floyd wanted a specific commence date. I haven't heard that one Lance, can you give more information or post a link?

 

HIS excuse was 'He is afraid of needles." Pac refers to himself as 'He'? Not , 'I am afraid of needles"? Look Mr. Facts, he never said that. But that will not stop you from using that line, as you have been told before Arum said that line.

I remember your silly list Isal. You're too easily swayed by gossip or fans you hate. And your fake quotes don't interest me. You simply aren't genuine.

Floyd has been controlling the dates based on when he announces it the fight, has he not? Either way, wait for someone else who'll entertain your "facts".

 

Its you clowns that insist on preaching Ginger is innocent when everyone Even Bob Bennett admits hes guilty
You support a PED's Cheat so you cannot be a boxing fan

 

The only fake is you.

Are you suggesting that Pacquiao beig afraid of needles, also stating that blood tests weaken him to avoid random testing wasn't used?

 

Well of course he was afraid of needles, he doesn't have the clen beef excuse.

 

You attribute what Bob arum said to Pac all the time. You aren't genuine at all Isal.

 

I was here for the entire saga. Either way, Pac didn't fail a test ever, he just refused to test like Mayweather wanted and by his rules. Pac still got accused of being a dirty boxer.

On the other hand, Canelo failed a test similar to what Pac and many other boxers go through yet those same people that accused Pac find excuses to say Canelo is clean.

 

It's freakin bizarro world with some of these guys!

 

He was tested just as everyone else. Never popped dirty. Yet you accuse him of being a cheater all while Canelo did come out dirty and you say he is clean. You don't see anything wrong with that?

 

Bob Arum has spoken on behalf of Pacquiao many times, as has Roach. Whenever someone who represents Pacquiao says something false our out of context Pacquiao has corrected or made a clarification.

 

Wrong and wrong.

Pac didn't fail a test likely because he REFUSED random testing when he was peaking physically tearing through the divisions without losing speed or power.

PED detection through urine is very outdated with todays masking agents, and techniques. Having both Pacquiao and Mayweather submit to random testing would ensure a level playing field. When you consider that many in boxing were suspicious of Pacquiao juicing, and when you consider Mayweather was asking BOTH fighters get tested, Pacquiao avoiding testing seemed suspect.

The excuses, afraid of needles, blood tests weaken him, specific cut off time reqirements, superstitious beliefs about drwing blood.. lol, come on guys, Pac was hiding something. And then his coach and father figure Roach states that Ariza was giving Pacquiao "special shakes"... Yeah...

 

The FACT is, Manny said no such thing. You think Manny needs to have a press conference to clear something up for message boarders? Are you really this naive Isal?

 

If Fluid was so clean and Pac so dirty, why did Fluid bail from the lawsuit and settle paying Pac millions?

For intelligence impaired, isn't that an admission of guilt?

 

oh, so you mean an excuse like "it was tainted beef"...


VADA drug tests failed PAC 0 Canelo 2 it must burn you up inside to know that...

of course, since Pac made Delehoya his biotch its no surprise you hate him if you are one thing is consistent with your hate of anything negative towards Goldenboy and his untencil's.. err I mean fighters..

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Honestly, I think both were dirty

there is a reason Floyd refused VADA testing and also balked at Pacquiao's requesting a failed test equal a monetary fine. and floyd requesting that a failed test need not be reported to the other party if they get a TUE.

My personal opinion Pac was using until at least the Marquez 3rd fight and stopped at the Rios fight as he started being tested then.. and seemed to lose a step IMO.

Floyd i believe the opposite he was probably clean when he first started at 147, But started using after his short lived retirement and seeing how Pac was doing on them.