Why do some UFC fans need to upload videos trying to convince people that their sport has surpassed

It hasnt really "displaced" boxing but in the last 15 years or so it has worked its way into a 1a/1b type position.

Whether its better or not? I mean, tbh, yeah on average its probably a better piece of entertainment. But boxing will always have a place. Sometimes you just wanna see guys throwing hands at the highest possible level.

 

Basic tribalism.
They also think UFC represents the whole of MMA, which it does not. It´s just one giant promotion. They are definitely bigger than any boxing promoter.

 

The main problems with Boxing are literally this:

Big time Corruption
Promoters(contributing to the above)
Multiple Governing Body(contributing to the above's)
Big fights not happen on time, cause of deck stacking, ducking, aging the opponent, and they are allowed to do that, even the Champions.
The best just not fight the best.
Rules applies only when it's suit the agenda.

While you can make a case right now that the big fights are happening, and some are happening on time(still later than it should be), due to Saudi, this is just a temporary thing. And unless Boxing is reformed totally, it's going to die for a lot of people.

It's just hard to follow it for people who are not just biased beyond biased and are blatant fanboys.
The first thing i want in the sport i watch, that is 100% fair for both parties.

All that being said though, in terms of quality, MMA is always going to lacks compare to Boxing in my eyes.
Also they are hyping every newcomers with few wins and decent skills, as the next ATG legend.
Also i can't stand that POS Joe Rogan.

 

In terms of $$ it has, but boxing is still more interesting to me. Found this the other day. Also i prefer One Championship over UFC because it has a bit more stuff like Muay Thai, Kickboxing, Jiu-Jitsu as separate too along with MMA.
https://i.ibb.co/1v0QwPy/combatsports.png

 

Boxing has been written about and eulogised by some of the greatest writers in history. At its best it has a beautiful brutality, its skill and drama in its most base form. It has a history that goes back centuries, it’s littered with great names. I don’t like MMA so I’m biased but if two men grabbing hold of each other is your thing, good luck to you, man on man action just isn’t for me. I hate the influencer boxing but if MMA was so popular and so lucrative, wouldn’t they be doing that instead. MMA seems to be populated by guys who can box a little, wrestle a little and kick box a little, jack of all trades, masters of none. It’s a bit ****.

 

Very ignorant post. The majority of fights are stand up these days and are brutal. Influrncers don't try MMA because they would get destroyed in the first minute.
They can hug and hold in boxing to try and avoid getting hit. MMA they try that and they get picked up and dumped and then get their head pounded in.

 

True but thats basically because its been around so long and was the only major professional combat sport for many, many decades. If you compare the situation over the last 15 years in terms of mainstream/pop culture visibility, big names, memorable moments etc theres nothing really in it between the two now.

To be fair the "man on man action" is a much smaller part of fights these days than it used to be, in the UFC anyway. Probably like 75% of all combined fight time in the UFC nowadays is stand up.

Also people have a tendency to seriously downplay what the "two men grabbing holding of each other" "rolling around on the floor" stuff actually is. A high level wrestler/grappler can make someones life ****ing suck.

There are definitely masters here and there, one of the biggest stars right now is Alex Pereira who was an elite kickboxer. But yeah, overall they are Jack of all trades types. I think the idea of versatile fighters who can switch things up and do a bunch of different stuff has its own appeal though. Guys like Fedor, GSP, Jones etc might not be "masters" anywhere but they are some of the greatest fighters that ever lived regardless.

 

Thank you. A very interesting and informative post.

 

A little bit over aggressive but I get your point. I don’t watch very much at all so I suppose I am ‘ ignorant ‘. Take the Haney Garcia fight. A very good fight, not a great one, but full of drama at a very high level from minute 1 to beyond minute 36. An undisputed lightweight champion battered by a talented crazy kid but still staying ( not even considering ‘ tapping out ‘ ) in the contest to keep it on the edge. As I previously said, that contest can then be compared to many of the great match ups in history, an extraordinary history, and will become a historical marker itself going forwards. I imagine the MMA equivalent is to say ‘ that reminds me of UFC 264 ‘ which doesn’t seem the same to me but then I am pretty ignorant. Also, there were hundreds of contests worldwide yesterday, today and all next week. How many years has it taken to get to UFC 34567 or however many there’s been ? MMA is a smaller sport by any metric. Who can forgot the old man in the pub who was sucker punched at full force by the legendary ( in his own lifetime ) Conor McGregor and appeared to not even notice he’d been punched.Embarrassing on all sorts of levels. I’m ignorant but I’m sure that McGregor can’t fight, certainly not without a massive media machine creating the playing field for him.

 

With MMA its both individual fights and full cards that get remembered if they stand out. For example the last big UFC event 300 will go down as an all time classic card and Holloway/Gaethje on that card was an instant classic fight too.

Thats just the UFC though. You can check how many pro events are happening in both sports through sites like Boxrec, Sherdog and Tapology and while boxing does indeed have more, the gap isnt as big as many would think. Theres 109 pro boxing cards scheduled for the rest of the month and 67 pro MMA cards.

He is a coked up egomaniac and the fame went to his head and ruined him, over the last 7 years his record in MMA is 1-3. Before the fall from grace when he was an actual full time fighter dedicated to his craft he was very very good though, definitely not all hype. If he had just talked **** without backing it up he never would have gotten anywhere.

 

and boxing boomers are just as ignorant of MMA as UFC fanboys are of boxing etc. There are still loads of idiots on forums who think a top boxer could easily waltz into MMA and become world champion without any degree of cross training.

 

Its interesting I did a boxing calendar using the UFC numbering system and we are only in the 1700s. "Boxing 1" would have been January 1882.