Why Do The Best Not Fight The Best?

What you really mean is why dont they fight Paul Williams.

 

Because we're in an era where an undefeated record is worth more than it should be

Because boxing is a sport which emphasises the risk/reward ratio

Because a loss is not seen as lesson, rather a stick to beat the fighter with

 

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Boxing is a money business. It's all about low-risk/high-reward. There's far too much money at stake and too much power to promotors in terms of purse bid differences and splits etc.

 

My guess is that if it were up to fighters, they would've fought already.

It's the managers/promoters who never want to risk their cash cow especially against a superior opponent.

 

Because it's a business, these guys bust their asses to reach a level where they can demand rather than watch others demand over them and to get there they need to accept that a few times and win/impress in the ring.

It might sound silly or crap compared to before but that's how it is. If money wasn't involved don't expect Ali and all the rest to exist in this sport, this is a job and as any other job people expect to be paid and if they can make more, why not?

Like Margarito, expect Paul Williams to do the same once he gets the recognition he needs. All these Tijuana garbage pickers on this forum were telling people "Margarito is throw-back", "Peanuts for glory senoir!!!" are now back to Taco Bell cleaning tables and wiping the floor. As soon as the throw-back, peanuts for pride first class tomato can got his VERY FIRST major win he became 100% money. If you asked them why, "MAN MARGO DESERVE SOME MONEY YO, HE SUFFERED MAN!", like the other fighters didn't suffer. And they tell you that with more than one fighter that whopped this tomato can's ass running after him offering a rematch, so much for throw-back.

 

It has nothing to do with the era. And it has nothing to do will old time fighters being more competitive. It has everything to do with economics and the money fighters can generate by being safe. Years ago when TV revenues were small and there was no pay per view, fighters absolutely had to fight the best fighters if they wanted to earn a decent living. I mean, Jake Lamotta and Sugar Ray Robinson didn't fight each other 3 times over a period of 6 weeks because they just loved fighting so much. They did it because they had to put food on the table.

But nowadays, even slightly above average fighters who have a decent following in their community (I'm thinking Chris Arreola here) can make an extremely good living fighting 98 percent bums.

 

they do just not when we say they should

 

I think it's getting a lot better.

- Pac has fought 2 top guys this year.
- So has Cotto.
- The Klits have pretty much beaten everyone worth mentioning except each other.
- Dawson is re-matching Johnson.
- Darchinyan has been constantly taking on the best.
- Mosley Vs Margarito
- Super 6.
- Pavlik agreed to fight Williams.
- John finally coming to the States.
- Bradley looks like he'll take on anyone.


The one division that's really upsetting me in this respect is SBW. So much talent in and around there yet they don't seem to want to fight each other (not Marquez/Vasquez fault of course).

 

if the big fights werent on ppv and were more accessible to casual fans then i don't think we would have to worry about it as much. good fighters w/ multiple loses would be able to keep fighting on tv. its much easier to hype an undefeated record when you are trying to get people to shell out $50 for a ppv card. these guys' promoters are probably worried that if one loses it will be hard to hype a ppv for his next fight....**** gets expensive after a while.

which is why this super six tourney is so great. dirrell would normally not get a shot at aa in his next fight after *losing* to froch...same can be said if froch lost...he def wouldnt be looking at a kessler fight. but all these guys are guaranteed 3 fights.

 

Pavlik v Abraham could possibly happen if Abraham wins the Super Six. Pavlik surely has to move up sometime with MW deserted?

Floyd v Cotto might happen if Cotto can get past Pacquiao, I think Floyd will definately show interest in fighting the winner.

Mosley v Williams, dependant on whether Mosley can beat Berto and whether he wants the fight I suppose. Would be a great fight, hopefully it happens.

Berto v Cotto I never really heard discussed. Berto still isn't at elite level yet, although I think he can beat Mosley. Cotto is obviously fighting one of the top 2 fighters in the world and hopefully to secure a fight should he win with the other.

 

Floyd would rather retire having beaten Marquez, Chris John and Vic Darchinyan than be tested by Williams, Cotto or Mosley.

Personally, I'd respect a 40-1 record that includes wins over Cotto, Mosley or Williams more than a 40-0 one that contains no wins over proper welterweights. Floyd is afraid of losing to the point that he won't fight anyone unless everything is stacked in his favour.

 

Well politics come into play. Pavlik vs AA is a case I can't argue with. Pavlik DIDN'T have any better options to ditch that fight with worthless excuses and laughable excuses only his trailer park loyalists will believe. If he had better options then I'll accept whatever other decision, the man was calling out Mayorga for ****'s sake instead of Abraham, that's good enough proof he had NO ONE. From the looks of things they might be finding ways to run from welterweights now.

Mosley vs Paul is understandable. Mosley never lied like Pavlik and the trailer park crew of plan A, B, C, D, E and Z. Mosley made it clear he just fought Marg who apparently no one wanted to fight and he DIDN'T NEED TO FIGHT HIM. He passed that course years ago, the course of having to beat risky opponents to secure big fights. Mosley is old and deserves some big money fights, even the Cotto and Marg fights weren't needed to be honest, he crossed that line LONG AGO. He made it clear he doesn't need Williams, he fought guys he had to in his prime, what he needs now is big money and he earned it.

Berto vs Cotto, I expect Arum to save Cotto for as many fighters he has in his stable. After all this is his own hype, feeding it to others for free is NOT a wise choice and he made it clear already. Win or lose, Arum said Cotto will fight Marg in a rematch.

Floyd vs Cotto is a very old discussion and very easy to see why it didn't happen. Just look at interviews with Cotto when Mayweather wasn't retired then look at interviews with him when Mayweather officially announced retirement. First it was "Promoter do me fight, me don't picks" then changed to "Mayweather run away from we wrath". Only first class ******s who can be compared to trash bins on this forum, and there's a lot, buy into that nonsense. At least Hatton was honest enough to admit he's not ready when both were at 140.