Why do the denizens of this forum think Rocky is blown out vs Liston but......

Dempsey, and Frazier have a much better chance against the two than their smaller counterpart in Marciano.

 

You've got it all wrong.

 

There isn't a big group of posters that think Rocky beats Louis but loses to Liston.

 

Yes he beat him in return but guess what....how many times Ali fought Foreman and how many Joe?Did Joe ducked rematch with Foreman or he was much braver than Ali and did against Foreman very good in second fight?And Joe really beat Ali in Manila according to everyone there!

Yes, but not always!Style make fights is true but not always!Fighters make fights and if style make fights how then some fighter beat other even knowing their style is bad for that man?

Bonavena had about 8 fights between Frazier and Ali!You acted just like it was very close time but Bonavena last time fought Frazier in 168 which make it as 2,5 years to Ali fight!He fought few bums for payday and washed Ramos!He was also overweight and in bad shape due to his lifestyle we all know!
Geroge Chuvalo almost had Ali out in 5th round and I think lost SD in rematch which was controversial!
Chuvalo won atleast 10 rounds in 30 rounds!In the first fight Chuvalo went dancing with his wife with face cuts while Ali went to hospital and pissed blood due to bleeding kidneys!
Ali cut Bugner but Bugner gave him few times a boxing lesson and Frazier did much better against Bugner!

Marciano>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Frazier!Marciano is still much better!Frazier best wins were Quarry,old Machen and Scrap Johnson and Mathis!
Marciano best wins 2x Charles,2x Walcott,Moore,Louis,Simmons,LaStarza,Matthews...
Marciano wins were much better!Walcott was as good as Ali and Marciano beat him!While Ali was bigger Walcott punched harder!
Marciano had better defense which he proved he was caught only twice in his life while Frazier was knocked plenty of times!
Marciano had better crouch with more weaving while not that bobbing and he hide and use shoulders!Marciano had better defense!
Marciano had equal footwork and defence than Frazier!He could stalk better and cut the ring also better!
He was better inside fighter!He was just better in everything!

Yes some people overrated someone with a reason but Marciano era was not that bad as Dempsey or Tyson 80s era when you did not have a proper and good champion to fight!
I know they are rivals but Ali was honest just like he was honest to say that if he went to a holly war he would want Frazier to be with him which was honest talk!
And Ali said that twice also Ali cried which proves he was honest on Marciano!He said that he was better and stronger than Frazier and he truly think that because he was a honest guy!
Foreman was respectful but also a honest guy!He said even in his prime that Marciano was toughest man and Frazier is second toughest man!He said Marciano was better because he could bang with both hands!
Moore said that because he was jelaous of Marciano beating him he also said Durrelle punched harder than Marciano but then after all that when he retired and not jelaous but honest he said Marciano was strongest and hardest puncher he fought and not only once but he said that in few interviews for sure!
Moore did not said who was strongest man he trained but the strongest man he fought!He trained Shavers but also never mentioned him only Foreman!

 

Uhm... what the ****, mate?

He fought 9 times. 3 times a year, for 3 years. Ali had fought 3 rounds in 3 years. Not 3 fights, 3 ROUNDS. His lifestyle is his own fault.

No he didn't.

You know you've just proven my point? All I said was that I agreed with Rocky getting cut vs Ali. You've just give me multiple examples of Ali cutting people, AFTER saying that it wasn't likely.

First of all, Frazier beat Ellis and Bonavena twice too, and he beat Quarry twice. Convenient you leave them out. Convenient you left Ali out too. It's the peak of hypocrisy to even dare to call another fighter's opponents old when you then site: Louis (37. y/o), Walcott (38. y/o), Moore (38 y/o) and Charles, who's prime was half a decade beforehand.

An old Charles, old Walcott, old Moore and Layne aren't as good as a prime Bonavena twice, prime Ellis and Prime Quarry twice.

Walcott as good as Ali.

I'm done. That's ****ing jokes.

 

Sorry George I was at a picnic yesterday in the falls.

 

It's alright pal, he gave me an excellent chance to get out of that debate. I took it with both hands!

 

From the looks of it you never needed any help

 

Why do you plagiarize everything? https://answers.yahoo.com/amp/qna/20090630123006AAjZK1v You do realize how painfully obvious it is to see that you didn't and couldn't come up with this on your own?

 

Do you Google search his posts?

 

Only when it's painfully obvious he didn't come up with the stuff he was writing as it far exceeds his intelligence level. For example, whenever you see "him" post something semi-coherent without exclamation marks, you know it's not him. Surprised nobody else has caught on. It also doesn't help that I also have an account on the site from which he deliberately plagiarized and remembered reading that same exact text years ago.

 

I think this sums him up:

 

I think you've got it all wrong.

33% of the people who voted in this poll picked Marciano to beat Liston:

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/poll-marciano-beats-which-of-these-champions.627727/page-2

Only 12% of the people who voted in this poll picked him to beat Louis:

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/poll-which-fighters-would-you-favor-over-joe-louis.628396/