Why do these youngsters all believe Cassius Clay was some kind of elusive, defensive wizard ?

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  1. KidDynamite

    KidDynamite Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Never heard of that
     
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  2. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    You really, really are showing an alarming amount of ignorance when your calling Ali "the biggest racist going". The 1960s were an extremely dangerous time for blacks in America and Ali was trying to stop perpetuation of the status quo of exchanging blood sweat and tears as currency for the masses while they were being murdered in massive numbers of if they were lucky enough avoided violence but just denied basic human rights. You can't apply any of your poorly thought through 2020 logic to what was going on back then
     
  3. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man Full Member

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    Nah, you watch Ali on Michael Parkinson and your left without a doubt that he harboured ill feeling towards whites, that and being thick as pig **** when challenged
     
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  4. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yep. The OP might try watching the 60s fights again. In fact, over and over again...he was THAT good, not just defensively.
     
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  5. UltimateDestroyer

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    I think he did drop his hardcore black Muslim beliefs but he does always get a free pass before that, just because he was a great boxer and celebrity.
    He came across ignorant when pressed on his beliefs, brainwashed by the rest of the black Muslims.
    He could have taken his stance on the war without calling people uncle Toms and then claiming it was all to sell fights.
     
  6. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Gallo threads so often turn into racial debates don't they and they draw good honest posters into dangerous territory where bans are somewhat blurred and at times sudden.

    Of course calling Ali "Clay" is the usual topic/bait where he just knows he will get a response/bite and can troll it all the way home from there.
     
  7. El Gallo Negro

    El Gallo Negro Active Member banned Full Member

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    If he didn't word it that way then why did you put words in his mouth? What is YOUR agenda?
    I simply repeated what you claimed he said.
     
  8. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    You are clearly rejoicing in your own ignorance but I will go ahead and ask what man with any dignity wouldn't have harbored "ill feelings" towards a system of racial supremacy that rendered him less human than the man sitting next to him no matter what he accomplished. If you are proud of the fact that you would have sat by and accepted the idea that you are less of man than any other in silence I wouldnt go around advertising it certainly not brag about it
     
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  9. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Anything you say Gomer Pyle, since you refer to Muhammad Ali as his former legal name Cassius Clay, I will refer to you as Gomer Pyle, the weakest branch of the Armed Forces.
     
  10. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He is now Gomer Pyle, since he refers to Muhammad Ali as Cassius Clay.
     
  11. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It means you.
     
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  12. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Look at what El Gallo Negro means in English, The Black Chicken, I am so ashamed to be the same race as he. Poor Gomer is displaying racism. He would have loved to go to Vietnam, to be a person that loves to torture Asian people who do not think like he does. That war was racist.
     
  13. El Gallo Negro

    El Gallo Negro Active Member banned Full Member

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    El Gallo is a fighting rooster, not a chicken. If you knew anything about Mexican culture you would know that
     
  14. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I do not have time to waste or give attention to you. That is your parents job Gomer Pyle.. Nobody on this site cares for you.
     
  15. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He is a child in need of attention, he wanted to play G.I. Joe with a Gomer Pyle tattoo on his arm.
     
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