Why do UK fighters lack skill and the ability to adjust .

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  1. Round1gymDC

    Round1gymDC Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I know I'm gonna get an ear full for this one, but I have to ask.
    Why do UK fighters lack the ability to adjust during fights? It's seems to me after somebody figures them out in they just the throw more punches and apply more pressure.

    I was watching Froch and Kessler, and I have to give them props for their heart, but damn where's the skills?

    Froch was throwing wild hooks and right crosses all night, Froch jab is the worst, he hops up everytime he throws it, I was dissapointed in kessler for not throwing a right hand over that week jab. Froch would leave his hands down as if he has the reflexes for that style.

    I used to think Kessler was skilled, but I can tell he's on the decline cause that's not the same Kessler from years past.

    At the end of the day UK fighters have heart, and always come in shape, but lack skill.
     
  2. Maxime

    Maxime Sweet Science Full Member

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    Get the **** out. You're about to get anal raped.
     
  3. Diggersan

    Diggersan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't know if its UK fighters but most fighters in general I think lack the ability to adjust you got to remember repetition is how fighters compete at the elite level, its hard to change your fighting style mid match
     
  4. King Leonidas

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    Froch's jab is the worst? How can it be so bad that he smacked Kessler with it whenever he wanted?
     
  5. Hermit

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    Froch is what he is and with no prior defeats never saw a need to change. Simple enough.
     
  6. Round1gymDC

    Round1gymDC Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because Kessler is down hill. I right hand over that jab and we could of called it a night early.
     
  7. Froch's skill (or lack thereof) does NOT reflect the skill of ALL the rest of the fighters from the U.K.

    This is one of those dumb debates where you can just leave out the nationality of the fighter because its an absolute moot point.
     
  8. Boxing Fanatic

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    Only the greats can adjust.
     
  9. Irländsk

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    So you were watching Froch-Kessler and thinking, 'damn what overprotected bitches these guys are'?
     
  10. Round1gymDC

    Round1gymDC Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Let me give u tWo guys that are in the tourny and can do it, ward and Direll and they're not greats I just think UK fighters are one trick ponys
     
  11. Round1gymDC

    Round1gymDC Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I take that back I forgot about adamek , that man has skills
     
  12. JMP

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    Well, Froch, Haye, Hatton, and Khan aren't going to be confused for technical juggernauts. In past decades, the UK has produced highly skilled boxers. Chalk this one up to the era not being that strong.
     
  13. JMP

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    Adamek's Polish.
     
  14. Round1gymDC

    Round1gymDC Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Khan still has hope, let's see what he does in his next few fights
     
  15. Put-Em-Up

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    Fight fan from the UK here. Your probably expecting that I'm just replying to call you an Ahole or something similar but I'm not. The points you have made are genuine it does appear that no UK fighter can adjust mid fight when things aren't going there way.Best example Hatton, after Mayweather exposed him and basically handed everyone the blue print as to how to beat him you would expect him to change. Next up came Lazcano and Hatton didn't look brilliant in there so he changes coaches and looked amazing against Paulie but then against pac soon as the going got rough he reverted back to old and got koed again. I think it has something to do with they way the fighters are'nt exposed to differant situations early in there career basically they're protected as a means of being worth more. Also I beleive that boxing isn't big enough in this country so we don't have a massive differance in styles to match up. The last UK fighter to be able to change plan when things weren't working was Joe Calzaghe the next fighter to have this ability . . . . well you let me know when you see him cos I can't see one for a while yet.