Why do Vitali fans bring up meaningless statistics?

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  1. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I will rewatch the fight, but I remember Vitali's legs giving out at one point during the fight, I cant remember which round though. It was a war, both men got hurt, while Vitali got the best of him through 6, Lewis looked better going into the second half of the fight, even Lewis said to Merchant after the fight "I just got my second wind Larry, and it was only a matter time before I got him out of there".
     
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  2. Mrboogie23

    Mrboogie23 what the?? Full Member

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    good fight. I still believe Vitali was hurt by that uppercut.
     
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  3. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Was Vitali ahead vs Lewis: probably
    Was Vitali in bad shape due to the cut: yes
    Was it a very close fight and not resolved to the fans' satisfaction: Yes
    Was Lewis entitled to retire when he damn well pleased: yes
    Did Vitali really deserve a rematch: Obviously
    Was that Lewis' problem: No
    It's pro boxing. They're both millionaires and have gotten over it years ago. We should too. Next fight.
     
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  4. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    No,not probably,the official scores were for Vitali
     
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  5. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    and we all know how accurate 'official' scoring can be...
     
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  6. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    You'r right here but I ajust said
     
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  7. Sputnik44

    Sputnik44 Active Member Full Member

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    yeah it's a good thing the official scores don't count for anything either...


    accurate or not that's what it was...
     
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  8. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Whatever. The freakin' point I was trying to make is that it's not that simple. I was trying to give a balanced view of the fight. Even if Vitali was beating Lewis' ass, it still doesn't mean that Lewis wasn't entitled to retire. Not only that, I can assure you that Vitali the multi-millioinare has not been crying himself to sleep each night since then, as apparently you have.
     
    ocelot, Sep 5, 2008
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  9. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    Vitali was more hurt by the short right hand late in round 6, than he was by the uppercut early in the round.

    He just held when the uppercut hit him. He held Lewis and fall all over him after taking the short right hand late in the round.
     
    Thread Stealer, Sep 5, 2008
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  10. SuperSouthpaw

    SuperSouthpaw Member Full Member

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    Great Thread! If Corrie was in his prime he would have kayoed vitali!
     
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  11. Thread Stealer

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    Stuff like "Vitali has one of the greatest rounds won-to-lost ratios ever".

    Wow. :lol:

    Now let's look at something important, like say, the guys he beat??
     
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  12. Superfuzz

    Superfuzz Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Maybe his resume isn't as good to you because his "Mike Tyson" ran away, didn't want to fight and decided to retire. Don't you think? Think about it.
     
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  13. Thread Stealer

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    No, it's because he lost his biggest fights to the best guys he faced, and his body couldn't handle the sport anymore when he had the chance to beat some of the best heavyweights around at the time.

    He had Chris Byrd in front of him, did well for most of the fight, and he quit when he had an injury.

    He had an undertrained, old, inactive for a year Lummox Lewis in front of him, but he lost. His face was cut to shreds.


    His brother isn't part of a good era either, and never fought Lummox, but he has a good resume by today's HW standards, because he's beaten a good number of heavyweights who were among the top ones around at the time.
     
    Thread Stealer, Sep 8, 2008
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  14. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    :lol: Lummox

    Your take on our recent heavyweights is alot like my own. Sweet Jesus. I knew I wasn't seeing things!

    I mean damn. This guy gets hyped up when he couldn't even replicate what Hasim Rahman did to a fat out of shape Lummox. He hit Lummox with how many clean right hands now? And this guy is supposed to be such a huge puncher. :rofl Right...
     
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  15. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    why do you start a thread about a fighter you don't even like
     
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