Why do we harp about "natural size and strength" as opposed to built up size and strength

That to me was the difference in the fight …it wasn’t a masterful boxing performance by Holyfield …and it didn’t have anything to being scared or not …he just bullied Tyson around the ring …and was able to move him backwards

 

I mean it was some of the best technical toe to toe action of the time, Holyfield's timing and counters were in fact masterful, he came out on top every time they were in close

 

There are too many variables to have solid answers for either side of this argument. For every Foster at heavyweight, there's also an Usyk at heavyweight- Certain men have their size and strength carry up, and others simply don't for unknown reasons. Genetics, training, natural strength, whatever you want to say it's from, certain men will be stronger. Compare it to the difference in strength between two brothers if you will, there's an intangible bit in each person that makes the difference.

 

I’m so sick of this myth debunking… listen and learn - Holyfield pushed Tyson around for the same reason most people do in a boxing ring,… positioning of the feet, hips or shoulders, this isn’t a strongman activity, you are either heavier or have the superior position it has nothing to do with how much you can press IMO.
Holyfield had issues making 190lbs, starving himself he was big there but drained,
Evander Holyfield wasn’t a skinny guy at cruiserweight lol where does this come from? Can’t you see? I’d bet the vast majority of this forum would be lucky to be so “skinny” he was a regular sized heavyweight who wanted to be bigger, before PEDs on the way up he was bigger then Louis smaller then Ali - all strength is manufactured for the love of God a bed ridden man’s legs will shrink to nothing does walking produce manufactured strength?
Yes because every ounce of muscle and strength is an adaption beyond a certain point of hormonal intervention.

 

When the weight starts hampering on mobility and boxing skill and endurance and starts causing bodyfat to get higher, thats when its attacked

obviously holyfield gained weight without doing any of that, because he was on drugs. Natural weight gain of that magnitude is infinitely harder