Why do Wlad fans not wanna see Wlad vs Haye?

i'm fans of neither boxers. i used to be a haye fan until the harrison farce. i'd root for him in a fight because he's flying the flag, but by the same margin i wanted harrison to spark him.

never really been a fan of k2. quite like vitali because he takes on big fights, but his time out has hurt his legacy too much IMO.

personally i think wlad would have twatted haye on july 2nd. if only he'd have taken the fight rather than choosing to fight 2 months before vs chisora.

 

Exactly... I like Haye but wouldn't say I'm a fan... But having to defend the guy in situations like him pulling out of a HW World title fight because he wasn't getting paid apparently makes you a 'delusional Haye nuthugger'.

Logic when it goes against the grain of the Wlad fanboy escalates into srgument rather than debate because they can't make resonable, valid and intelligent arguments because they don't have a leg to stand on so repeat the same old tired bull**** 'Haye is a *****' 'Haye is a coward' ect ect

 

klit fans are not boxing fans. some are but the majority are not.

in their eyes atm wlad can do no wrong, even though he made a unification impossible. they then say haye should fight vitali, even though he then signs for solis making a unification impossible.

if last year was a duck for haye, then this year is a duck from wlad.

 

Why? Adamek isn't a title holder, hasn't beat anyone of note other than a fat hype job Arreola coming off a loss and has looked terrible in fights against the likes of semi retired and ancient Grant. Is too small and to hittable to outpoint Wlad and doesn't have the power to stop him. Seems a very strange statement to me.

Wlad's understandable reluctance to fight his brother only leaves one other fight worth a wank in an extremely talent starved division and that's against Haye... nobody in the division is likely to outpoint Wlad (other than Vitali) but Haye is the fighter with the combination of counter punching ability, speed and power that provies the tool set to get round Wlads pawing jab to get to Wlads chin and crack it

 

i do think that wlad vs adamek is a big fight in it's own rights. but to rank it above a wlad haye fight is ridiculous.

the brothers lifelong dream is to hold all heaviweight belts between them, not beat up an undersized polish guy.

 

:roll: That's a bad thing? Pacquiao, Floyd, the Klitschkos and even David Haye make their millions from those casual fans. Most boxers strive to achieve this and become big names but can't.

 

No, of course not. In fact they're great (maybe even vital) for boxing as they generate huge money in PPVs that would not be possible just relying on hardcore fans.

However, I think he was referring to it being a bad thing on forums such as these. Only being interested in one fighter makes having any kind of debate or discussion with them impossible. They view their fighter as an idol, like a pop star or something, meaning there is no objectivity. They do not properly understand how the sport works, they can't see any faults in their fighters behaviour and they can't accept any criticism of their fighter.

A potential foe of their fighter becomes a hate figure, spawning endless threads deriding the opponent, his skills and accomplishments. Any critiscism of their idol results in accusations of being a fanboy of somebody else or a hater. All they do is read what other like minded fans have said and take that as gospel, ignoring the actual facts of what's going on.

In short, the teeny bopper fanboys bring the discussions in this place down to the toilet.

Fanboys - great for boxing, a skidmark in the pants of the forum

 

remember the klit fans used to defend the klits for not unifying, some of the excuses were don king, evil german promoters, ruiz hasn't done anything etc etc.

 

Good post.

(why does your avi always making me feel uncomfortable...)

 

Excellent post Jack spot on!:good

 

Most Klitschko's fan (which i am) think he will/would win against Haye (which I think is the safest bet).

Also a Haye fan by the way....

 

I'm not a 'fan' of either fighter but appreciate both fighters abilities in the ring and what they have achieved and really want to see them square off against each other because it is the only fight available where Wlad will be tested... My money is on Wlad winning via stoppage but Haye has the tools to stop Wlad.

Just narks me the amount of Klit fans on this forum (yourself excluded) who don't seem to have a grasp on reality and ignore facts to suit their agenda

 

Exactly.

I've criticized Haye in the past and I criticize Wlad. I like both fighters and hope they eventually fight but it's hard being a Wlad fan on here because of the amount of idiots who support him, and you get thrown into that group if you do the same. I genuinely don't think there's much of a case to defend Wlad here though, but I did say that Haye should have accepted anyway, unless Sky told him not to.

That said, you see these posters come on here and just slate Haye. If you think Haye was wrong to reject the fight, that's fine, but surely you can also say Wlad is wrong to keep going with the Chisora fight, if he knew Haye would pull out? The both of them are at fault, without question. People can say "Haye's a liar" and maybe you think he is, but then you get people defending Wlad blatantly lying by saying he'd fight anywhere, which he clearly won't do. In fact, the only place Wlad accepted was the country he fights out of. He doesn't want a neutral venue and he doesn't want the fight where it makes the most money, so if you're being fair about it, say "Haye is a liar" and that's fine, but it must be followed up with "and so is Wlad".

The Wlad fans on here are the worst on this forum, without question. People talk **** about Mayweather fans, Haye fans etc., but at least they're actual boxing fans who are on here all year round. Wlad fans aren't.

The biggest load of **** I've seen on this forum in a long time, is when I asked RUSKULL if he was in charge of Wlad, would he go ahead with the Chisora fight, knowing it would terminate any deal with Haye and he said "Yes". You don't get any more biased than that.

At the end of the day though, they support a guy who has literally made no effort to make the biggest fight possible happen. Wlad gave Haye a list of demands, some which Haye didn't need to accept, but he did anyway. All Wlad had to do, was cancel a farcical fight but he didn't. His fans support that but who are the ones who lose out? Wlad will make millions fighting Chisora and the fans get an uninteresting annihilation instead of a unification fight. It's sad that fans defend that, instead of wanting their favourite to test himself and fight the very best.

 

Well i guess its just the meaning of "fan" then. You said you are not a fan but " appreciate both fighters abilities in the ring and what they have achieved".

I'm the same. I guess i'm not a "fan" then

Oh and: "don't seem to have a grasp on reality and ignore facts to suit their agenda"

PLease...this apply to a lot of Haye's fan too...Just admit it.

You guys always making it like one side is super smart and the other isn't.

As much ******s on both side.
If you can't admit that, you know better than the Klitards.

See Jack...always acting like Haye is perfect. Good fanboy!:happy

 

I am a great Wlad Fan and i want to see this fight. And Wladimir want to make it.

I bought tickets for Wlad vs. Haye in 2009, unfortunaly Haye pulled out.

Wlad wants Haye and if Haye will sign he will get ko´ed.