Why do you think Berchelt looked so bad?

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  1. MannyMMA

    MannyMMA GGG beat CLENelo twice Full Member

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    I had originally picked Valdez to win this fight (& I won $50:yaay) by UD but something about the fight seemed so off to me. From the starting bell, Berchelt was hesitant to throw any punches at all and looked extremely slow. He looked sluggish, his defense was TERRIBLE and his overall ring IQ looked abysmal. Did anyone else have this same feeling or was it just another case of a boxer being exposed badly and this forum being terribly wrong?
     
    MannyMMA, Feb 22, 2021 at 3:54 PM
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  2. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Two words. Oscar Valdez
     
    ElCyclon, Feb 22, 2021 at 3:58 PM
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  3. FromBuenosAires

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    massive weight cut plus balloning 17 lbs overnight made him lethargic and overly vulnerable. he always had poor ring iq, last night just proved he is little more than a plodding inside fighter.
     



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    FromBuenosAires, Feb 22, 2021 at 4:01 PM
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  4. Boomstick

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    He fought his fight. Came forward, throwing combos, and getting hit in the process. Valdez’s left hooks couldn’t miss. He got done in while trying to turn the tide, and got caught flush with a perfectly timed bomb, while rushing in trying punctuate a round.
     
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  5. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nope, Valdez just fought the perfect fight. He put together punching from awkward angles, keeping the right distance, finding the right punch, moving his head at the right times and taking away Berchelt's rhythm in brilliant fashion. He put it all together seamlessly. When you see a guy that can focus enough to blend perfect head, foot and hand movement in the moment you know you've got a complete fighter right there.
     
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  6. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Valdez impressed though it was clear Berchelt left something of himself on those scales.
     
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  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Like I said the other day, I've never really understood what all the fuss was about with Berchelt. Good fighter for sure but he was just another guy who was massive for the weight class and his size, strength, power and physicality were huge assets for him against all those leprechauns and garden gnomes down at 130. Maybe dragging his body down to 130 caught up with him but if that's the case you can't cite it as an excuse when it gave you such an advantage all the other times. But that being said, Valdez is a quality operator and he fought the fight of his life and he deserves a lot of credit for his performance.
     
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  8. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Berchelt was never a B level fighter, he is a solid win for Valdez and he has a very bright future ahead but Berchelt would have got his ass handed to him by many guys between 122-135
     
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  9. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Brchelt i never rated that highly. Good fighter but beatable. Valdez was just too good and it's that simple.
     
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  10. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't buy that. I would have given him a decent chance vs anyone from 130-135( nobody below 130 would have beaten him) before Valdez got to him. And still might depending on how good he looks in his comeback fight. Valdez simply put on a great performance.
     
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  11. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. Full Member

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    Dude will be a shell in his next fight.
     
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  12. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    More than likely.
     
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  13. IsaL

    IsaL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A combination of being weight drained, over confident, and Caldez fighting perfect.
     
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  14. Bigdog2002

    Bigdog2002 Active Member Full Member

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    COVID! Every boxer and athlete that gets Covid is not the same. Maybe he needed a full 3-6 months to recover Internally
     
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