Why do you think boxing changed from 15 to 12 rounds?

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  1. Kel1981

    Kel1981 P4P No.1 Full Member

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    Who do you think made this decision? 15 to 12........who made the call?
     
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  2. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    There's the whole story on why it went from 15 to 12.

    The one who died didn't have any experience fighting in the late rounds, but the one who killed him was seasoned there.
     
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  3. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol: This has some truth in it. 12 round fights are easier to watch for casual fans than the longer 15 rounds.
     
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  4. naldo marshal

    naldo marshal heavyweight champ Full Member

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    Safety, but shortening the fights wasn't a bad idea.. but I wish it was 13 or 11 rounds, to help get rid of draws.Agreed!!!
     
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  5. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not even remotely true. From just my own memory, Paez-Grove in '88 was held over 15, two full years after that. That's probably discounting a few.

    I think the real reason was ease of televison production. Kiko Bejines also died as a result of a beating he took in the ring, but he was stopped in the 12th, which couldn't have counted against the 15-round distance. Neither could the high-profile death of brave Johnny Owen in 1980, in which he was stopped by Lupe Pintor, also in the 12th.......then there was Willie Classen, who died after facing Wilford Scypion in the 10th round of a non-title fight in 1980.

    Way back, the featherweight Davey Moore was stopped in the 10th in his fight against Sugar Ramos, and died afterward.


    How many fights can critics point to that ended in tragedy due to the results of a beating ending after the 12th round? It seems really arbitrary to me, except for the fact that it happily sat in with programming schedules better.

    Now that no one shows boxing on regular TV these days, you'd think it wouldn't matter to them so much anymore.
     
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  6. Brownies

    Brownies Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't have any problems with draws. I like to see a boxer take 6 rounds, the other one 6 and see both of them raising hands together after the fight, waiting for a rematch.
     
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  7. caneman

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    I always thought the main reason was the tragedy of the Mancini-Kim fight. More recently though there have been studies done that suggest greater risk of head trauma injuries occuring when fights go beyong 9 or 10 rounds.
     
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  8. Overhill

    Overhill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    More rounds = more landed punches = more damage. 12 rounds is fine for me and draws are part of the game.
     
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  9. David Fanning

    David Fanning Internet Tuff Guy Full Member

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    Well said.
     
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  10. Leon

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    What's the story behind your scary AZZ avatar?:huh
     
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  11. Farmboxer

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    The "real" reason was to fit in more commercials on TV.
     
    Farmboxer, Oct 8, 2010
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  12. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wasn't it due to the death of Duk Koo Kim?
     
    eliqueiros, Oct 9, 2010
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  13. rulb

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    You are odd
     
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  14. Overhill

    Overhill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    My beard grew before my eyes.
     
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  15. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    That was the reason given.

    A lot of older fans than myself (I was only 2 when Mancini fought Kim) say that was just a smokescreen and the real reason for the change was to fit nicely in an hour time slot, as boxing was on network TV back then.

    Mancini-Kim is also cited by many as being the fight which led to the beginning of the end of same day weigh-ins (Kim cut a lot of weight), while others say this was also a smokescreen and it was really about money. A year later, lots of money was lost on the Spinks-Muhammad aborted rematch when Eddie failed to make weight.
     
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