Why does boxing not have a level playing field? Why are the judges, referees,

**** current boxing all together. Just make em fight til one dies I reckon. The ref is only there to confirm lack of vital signs. The judges are there to tell the living fighter if it was a good scrap or not and spit on the corpse of the dead one.

 

USA is corrupted and full of lies top to bottom. It's all about that $$$$,what your goverment/banks print for mega rich people.

boxing is no different of course,soon this all madness will come to end.

 

Such biased shenanigans actually places the referee in danger of frustrated fighter retaliation. So the ref runs the most risk.

Here is how a ref might provoke a reprisal:

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Here is an extreme reaction to what was perceived as an injustice:

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Good video for the most part. But Chavez definitely landed some clean shots before the fight was stopped.

 

The commentator's criticism isn't that Chavez never landed any clean shots.

 

I think it's one of those borderline stoppages personally. Cole has done a lot worse, in this video and elsewhere.

 

Quite a character-that's for sure!

 

Funny, I once knew a hooker that said the same thing!

 

You mean what the scumbag Sunahara said when I requested a raise?
Really sad that such people seem to thrive.

 

Good post.

Since the promoter usually picks the judges and referee fans can be ripped off. I much rather see a live lottery style drawing of a poll of 50 judges, as it would make boxing harder to " fix " as the promoter would have to pay them all off in advance.

What boxing really needs is a very rich person who doesn't care about making money first cleaning up the sport.

For openers, offer larger purses when both fighters are in their primes, and strip champions like Wilder who has not faced one top ten ring magazine ranked opponent during his title run.

If I were king....

I'd bring back 15 round for title unification matches only.

Consolidate the weight classes. The way the amateurs do it is better as they have fewer weight classes.

Force a champion of any belt to face at least one ring ranked top ten opponents every 16 months, or be stripped of his belt.

Organize an 8 man single elimination tournament every four years, with the lineal champion getting a huge bonus to fight in it. If the lineal belt is vacant, the winner here is the new lineal champion.

Take 1% off the top of PPV sanctioned title fights. Use the money as a bonus to any amateur to turn professional pro who has won gold, silver or bronze in either the Olympics or World amateur championships. To collect the money, the fighter gets half up front than the other half after his first 8 fights.

Gold 50K bonus
Silver 25k bonus
Bronze 15k bonus

This way we'd get more talent into the professional ranks...I think. It's hard to make money early on in boxing for the promoters and managers.

 

Yeh id be very tempted to knock the ref out in these situations.

 

Perhaps it's a certain metallity or trait that you need to become rich. I don't know!

 

Ha. Well, I'm not suggesting Scheafer and the WBSS would wilfully manipulate promoters into taking part with the intention of expanding the project into an international body then backstabbing the separare business aspirations of promoters. But if the WBSS really takes off promoters should see the longer term financial appeal of working together and focusing on competitive, logical matchups. And if that happens maybe the perfect storm presents itself and the major promoters don't just cooperate but merge with commissions and the title orgs to make an international governing body. And if THAT happens the laws should then be compelled to recognise the 'league' as promoter and commission.

I don't expect it, and even getting promoters willing to give up a bit of control and take part in the WBSS is and might continue to be a problem. But a 'palace coup' amongst existing pro boxing powers would have a better chance of changing boxing's structure than an outside force like AIBA trying to take over. Or my preferred dream of a 'peoples revolution', where disgruntled and disadvantaged less-connected and lower-level boxers form a union that becomes the base of a new governing body and league.

 

Pro revenue subsidising not just the top amateurs but the grassroots would really help. To do that though the amateur and pro games would have to be more connected. So AIBA running pro boxing does make sense. But their plan with something calling the APB quickly fizzled out, and the top promoters and the alphabet orgs denounced it, and would put out all the stops to make sure it fails if it did grow. I now wanted to bring up the legal issues with anyone but promoters putting on boxing events.

Good thoughts, they should almost all be part of boxing if it was run like a proper sport. But they won't be implemented as long as competing promoters are the matchmakers and employers of everyone else involved. A promoter is a business that will want to protect its own interests over its competition. They will naturally want to preserve their boxer assets rather than risk them against a significant threat. Even a randomly selected judge would know which guy would be better getting a decision. And of course mismatches and which fights don't happen is the much more essential problem.

If we imagine starting from scratch, it should only make sense to schedule matchups based on actual results, a league, rather than allowing anyone at any level in boxing to just 'make fights'. The WBSS is the 8 man tourney every four year per weight that establishes a legit champ. I love it already now, but I was thinking of the hypothetical greater impact it could have, if all fights from top to bottom were made and scheduled by them rather than promoters. But Arum and Haymon's fighters not staying away from the 168 tourney shows how difficult any format that enforces 'fair fights' will be.

I agree that you should make more against a prime opponent, as older name guys these days are overpaid when they get to avoid risks and prevent younger but talented guys from breaking through. But the solution should again be obvious if the WBSS is the model: if the whole of boxing is scheduled as a league a prize money structure where the more successful simply make more would be obvious.