Why does Bute beats Froch. [Analysis Inside]

i'll make another one,more simple.bute has talent and skills wich froch lacks.froch has heart and chin wich bute is unproven.both have power so can go either way,with bute slightly favorite.

 

If you can not be bothered to read that then let me summarise it for you.

Although Froch is a proven champion and warrior who only fights the best; Bute is, in theory, better.

Great thread.

Oh, there's only 'factor' you haven't compared:

Chin.

Froch has one; Bute hides his wet toilet paper Chin behind his paper title.

 

i wouldn't call fighting in super6 "fighting the best".in fact,remove ward who froch haven't fight and kessler whom he lost and you'll have just a bunch of clownes (dirrell,green),old timers (johnson),shot (taylor) or unproven (AA) competition.froch only fought pascal outside super6 so give it a rest bozo !

 

I am a froch fan and no he has limitations.. What i can't help thinking is that all the above is ok but bute has only tested his skills against b level. It's all right saying he has this in his arsenal when he fights within this kind of standard. He hasn't fought at world level and therefore isn't tested. His chin looks to be a weakness as does his heart.. It is so easy to look good against a certain level of opposition when you have butes qualities..

 

How come Bute's chin is untested? Fought the biggest punchers around, Berrio, Bika, Andrade, Zuniga, Miranda tested that chin, and the only time he was troubled was when he was completely exhausted vs. Andrade, barely standing before getting hurt. I say Bute's chin is good, not very good nor suspect, heart I would not question not only getting up from the KD but giving Librado the rematch and finishing in style.

Froch's chin also falls into the good category. He takes them well but he was also the only one Taylor ever knocked down at 168, was a bit buzzed vs Kessler Johnson too. Excellent recovery and big heart though, so in that regard give Carl a slight edge, just like I give Bute the edge in speed, overall skills and one punch power. There is one major advantage here however, and that it Bute's quick slick style which is terrible for Froch and therefore I give the Romanian a 60/40 edge in a fight both have a legit chance to win.

 

Can i ask who else could have been in super 6 (except bute) that would have changed you opinion of the standard "best". If you really think this then maybe you should be claiming that the entire super middle weight division is weak.. Oh and for the record, froch fought taylor outside the super 6 too - bozo and either way the level of opposition is a step up from what bute has been serving up for his entire career.

 

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Bika is no big puncher and the others you mention are not what i call the biggest punchers around..

so yes i stand by what i say, bute's chin amongst other things is still untested

 

if you call it super6 doesn't mean you have the best 6 fighters there bozo.in fact taylor had 3 fights at smw(i count here pavlik II too) before super6 with 1 win,and AA had exactly 0 fights at smw before the tournament.add here dirrell who was invited cause he's american,not even in top10 at that time and green who is a complete joke,he fights in butes undercard on nov5 and you have your SUPER6.a joke made for fools like you,who buy products reading just the label,not checking the content.

 

this right here say all we need to know about you,clown !

 

I never once said the super 6 was the "best"? What i will say and did say is froch and the others have fought consistently better opposition than bute.. whatever, the reason that is fact - bozo, you really should read what people say, except that it suits your agenda to discredit the super 6 and therefore froch and the other fighters who have done more than bute at SM. So quit trying to put words into other peoples opinions in order to make your own opinions less contentious ,therefore a joke, made for fools like you and anybody who believes them.. You know the kind of folk who buy into products without reading the label and then accuse others of doing the same?

 

Ok, my opinion makes me a clown.. When all i was saying is he is still for whatever reason relatively unproven and none of those fighters are what I would call A class or that powerful.

Anyhow you nob ed, you seem to be a bit of a ***** and therefore will be the first to be added to my ignore list. :hi:

 

Nor is a good puncher necessarily a big one? Hence why i agree the guys you list are good punchers but with limited skills in order to take advantage of their good punching power. Miranda was a powerful middleweight not so sure he should be classed as so at SM. Bika has average power for me, tough and lacks the skills to take out the best.

Don't get me wrong here, i like butes skill set and think he is a big puncher. I also wouldn't be surprised if he was to go on and be the best. What i will say is i have witnessed this kind of potential before and equally wouldn't be surprised if bute failed against the likes of, Ward, Froch, kesseler and Dirrell. These guys except dirrell are all capable of utilising their skill set to the full and are used to the big occasion.. Bute has to prove he can transfer his form over to the big stage and I think his career to date is testament to this.