Why does Clenelo get a pass?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by xnico, Mar 4, 2021.

  1. xnico

    xnico New Member Full Member

    Nov 6, 2020
    But Jarrell Miller does not? Why did he get banned for 2 years but not Clenelo?

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  2. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Addict Full Member

    Oct 29, 2012
    Helps to be one who generates millions for the hosting venue, ABC, and the sport in general.
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  3. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

    Jun 26, 2019
    He's one of like 3 cash cows (pun intended) of boxing.
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  4. IsaL

    IsaL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Oct 7, 2006
    Why did:
    Jones Jr
    Fer. Vargas
    Fran. Vargas

    and many of the other fighters with dirty tests get passes?

    We may never know.
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  5. xnico

    xnico New Member Full Member

    Nov 6, 2020
    someone set Fury up
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  6. MannyMMA

    MannyMMA GGG beat CLENelo twice Full Member

    Sep 11, 2011
    Because for some weird reason, some people love giving Canelo all the credit in the world while simultaneously ignoring stuff like his failed drug tests, getting outboxed by Lara and an old GGG, and always conveniently having the judges on his side.
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  7. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 The Original 101.3 Full Member

    Mar 17, 2018
    That's enough internet for you today young man!
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  8. shadow111

    shadow111 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Aug 1, 2012
    Miller knowingly and admittedly took a banned substance. He claimed it helped him heal from injuries. Canelo did not. What Miller got caught with is much more dangerous and there were specific warning from WADA about the risks from taking it and its side effects. Clenbuterol has no such side effects or risks and is a substance commonly found in Meat in Mexico. Mexican athletes testing for trace amounts of clenbuterol can be explained due to simple and accidental meat contamination. What Mlller tested positive for can not. Any questions?
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  9. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot El gran campeón Mexicano Full Member

    Mar 5, 2012
    he's been **** on since the ped ****
  10. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Active Member Full Member

    Mar 1, 2010
    Yep get to a certain level and blatant clues are often ignored. I’ll just bring up a few you forgot to mention.

    Evander Holyfield’s brother Evan Fields ordering all the HGH and getting it delivered to his house.

    Marquez working with the infamous Memo Heredia before the fourth Pac fight and showing up as the Incredible Hulk’s stunt double.

    Pac-Man not safe either Ariza admitting to certain shakes and him being magically scared of needles when Floyd first brought drug testing.

    And let’s not forget the accuser getting caught red handed being administered a IV “solution” after weigh-ins and getting a retroactive approval.

    Notice how all the above are ATGs and get a pass so it’s no surprise the cash cow of today is getting a pass.
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  11. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

    Apr 14, 2009
    !!!!!!!!!!! CORRUPTION !!!!!!!!!! ITS OBVIOUS
  12. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

    Jul 26, 2004
    I dont think Mosley ever failed a test did he? I think its only known he took PEDS because he admitted to it. So they might not have precedures for that sort of thing (when a fighter admits to something that happened years prior but doesnt actually fail tests)

    And Feroz got a 9 month suspension and a 100k fine. But ya... pretty much a slap on the wrist, if that.
  13. FromBuenosAires

    FromBuenosAires Active Member Full Member

    Jul 31, 2019
    you are comparing apples to oranges and you know it, but keep hating. Miller was a serious doper who heavily abused steroids , canelo tested postive for....clenbuterol, like a lot of mexican sportsmen and foreign athletes who had prolonged stays in mexico. its even a debate if clenbuterol is really an anabolic agent, it is used in asthma medication increasing pulmonary capacity but its not a foregone conclusion tha it has a significant effect on healthy people, on top of that clenbuterol is useless as a masking agent and almost impossible to hide. So there are only two possibilities, either a boxer with the best strenght and conditioning and dieting regimes willingly took clenbuterol and nobody in his team of professionals stopped him and told him how idiotic that was. or, more likely, he ate tainted meat that nobody bothered to verify the origin and substances in it, and ended up having the same problem as dozens of other sportsmen.
  14. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Addict Full Member

    Nov 22, 2014
    It isn’t that complicated. Miller burned a lot of bridges and thought he had more clout in the boxing industry than he actually did. Regardless of how talented a fighter is boxing is an industry where you need we’ll connected and preferably rich allies to back you up to be successful and Miller didn’t seem to understand that until it was too late.

    If Miller had wisely maintained a good relationship with his handlers they could’ve found a way to work around his test just like Hearn was able to find a work around for Whyte,

    Even Fury and Jones Jr. knew when to stop talking.
  15. shadow111

    shadow111 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Aug 1, 2012
    Mosley was named directly by Victor Conte as part of the BALCO investigation that he supplied Mosley with EPO and for steroids known as "the cream" and "the clear". Conte also told newspapers that he watched Mosley inject himself with endurance-boosting EPO and that the boxer knew what he was taking.

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    So while Mosley didn't test positive, he also likely wasn't being tested throughout his career, or at least not to the extent that fighters like Canelo are tested these days. Obviously Mosley knew how to cycle on and off them in time for his drug testing, something that can't be done as easily these days due to more random and regular testing.

    Mosley admitted to "unknowingly" take steroids as a result of the BALCO case being in the news, which is hard to believe.

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    Mosley said "Unknowingly, yes, some of the substances they are talking about, were being used as part of the workouts. I didn't know what the hell it was," According to Mosley, he had no clue what the PEDs he was taking were, or if they were banned. Back then, drug testing wasn't what it was now where everyone clearly knows what's banned, though it's still hard to believe that Mosley didn't know he was taking PEDs / banned substances.
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