Why does Dubois have no heart

The injury he suffered against Joyce is something that will make everybody quit, so I am not judging him about, he gave Joyce a good fight being too green. The point is how he usually quits and reacts when hurt or tired and it's bad. He surely lacks experience, but it's not only that, he seems to lack heart. Why - I don't engage guessing, he's not the first or the last.

 

Hes a soft lad and comes across as one aswell.

 

At his core, I think Dubois lacks maturity overall. He kinda reminds me of a boy in a man's body with a boys naivety & unpredictable mentality when the going gets tough.

The serious injury that he suffered against Joyce was the first time that Dubois had been in deep water, and it certainly was deep water. Human instinct kicked in and he saved himself from further serious injury. A fairly normal human reaction considering the circumstances. It wasn't a life or death situation where he had no choice but to fight on. It was just a boxing match.

However, I think in Dubois case, that quit mentality when the going gets tough is now hard wired into his psyche. That's his reserve now

We saw it again in the Lerena fight, again he looked to suffer an injury and his initial instinct was immediate and very decisive. His hard wiring kicked in again. Ok, on that occasion Dubois managed to turn things around against an opponent who chose not to try and capitalize on the situation.

In the Usyk fight the now hard wired quit was there for all to see. He went down in the 9th, he was not injured this time, or even heavily concussed imo. He went from an all fours initial position on the canvas to one of a crouching and waiting position on one knee whilst the ref started the count. Dubois was fully aware at this point, he could hear the count, he was watching and could clearly see the refs fingers mimicking the count. Dubois made a conscious decision to deliberately not make the count. He timed it perfectly to stand up, at, or just after the ten count, in a fluid and decisive manner. All made to look as though he tried to make the count. He didn't try...

He quit....

 

Agreed, if you have the skills to fall back on to try something different when you are taking a beating then you have the ability to adapt and that provides hope and so a fighter digs deep and continues. Wilder for example never quit vs Fury no matter how badly he was getting beating up because he had the hope that if he landed a good enough shot he could turn the fight his way like he had so many other times.

Dubois in contrast is very basic, his whole plan seemed to be go to the body, land a lucky punch and when that didn't work he had nothing to fall back on nothing to give him hope that he could turn it around and so quit.

Yes, I am in the camp that if a fighter quits it's not some death sentence for a fighter. Vitali quit, Duran quit, etc. Dubois' biggest issue as you say is a lack of ability not the fact he quit.

 

Glass cannons. When on the attack and against a hurt or intimidated fighter… they’re both dangerous. But when faced with a guy who’s absolutely fearless in the ring and will fire back like Usyk, they’re in trouble.

Add to that, the fact Usyk completely outthinks them both, he’s beating both 10 times out of 10.

Another guy who neither would stand any chance with is Vitali. Fearless, iron chinned, WILL stand there and trade with both no problem too.

 

It’s a British thing. Many cowardly British boxers.

 

All I know is that he quit against Usyk and showed little desire to win. It’s absolutely inexcusable.

It should be condemned by all. He is a 25 year old man with full mental faculties intact. He chose to compete in one of the hardest sports in the world, so he should know whats on the line and whats required.

And yet he quit, he should have gone down swinging on his shield. Don’t quit until your unconcious.

when does he get a title shot next? Exactly

 

He displayed more heart than I do when I get a minor cold, to be honest. And I've got plenty of heart. Some doctors think it is actually enlarged.

 

Dubois also took a knee at the end of the 8th, where there weren't even any clear shots landed on him. He just got frazzled and instinctively took the knee. Strangely, I don't even have a huge problem with that, as it bought him some time to get re-balanced, and he beat the count. But he went down in the 9th and easily could have gotten up in time, but chose not to. That's more concerning. Every boxer from now on will know to just apply some good consistent pressure and he will fold. It's a shame because I actually rate Dubois, but he won't go any further with that 'easy way out' mentality.

 

I don’t think Dubois lacks heart. He was simply overmatched. Dubois is a perfect example of a fighter being rushed by his handlers instead gradually developing him.

Dubois has talent, but he needs quality rounds to be properly developed. His lack of experience showed in both the Joyce and Usyk fights what happens when you put an underdeveloped young talent against top competition.