Why does everyone mention marty marshall to attempt to degrade sonny?

Ive heard from numerous posters around everytime in a fantasy matchup with liston in it, they bring up that godamm marty marshall kd or the first loss to degrade his chin/ability or what not.


lets take a look at the 3 fights


1st fight listons 8th pro fight: Liston knocks marshall down(nearly out). Marshall somehow gets up and starts clowning around. Liston is controlling the fight easily winning in the 4th round, when marshall screams out and liston starts to laugh out loud at this # 7 rated lightheavyweight contender and gets caught with a punch that breaks his jaw. liston fights with excrutiating pain for the next 4 rounds losing a very close split decision that could have gone either way.


"I was told to take it easy for a couple rounds. Marshall's a clown. they told me, Who'd bounce around and flick punches from all sides. I was standing there, kinda wondering, when all of a sudden he lets out a yell, and with my mouth wide open, gaping, he slugged me right in the jaw. it didn't hurt, but I couldn't close my mouth. I had to fight the last 4 rounds with my mouth open. After a while it hurt bad."- Sonny Liston


"He's tough. thats one thing nobody can deny about that man. He hurts when he breathes on you."- Marty Marshall

Rematch Listons 9th pro fight: Listons knocks marshall down 4 times in 6 rounds knocking marshall out in the 6th round. marshall floors liston for a flash 1 count.

"Im sorry to this day about knocking him down. Man, Am I sorry. He hit me after that like-nobody should be hit like that. I think about it now and I hurt. He came out after me in the fifth round. He hit me with a right hand on my ear. It didnt knock me out, and it didnt knock me down, but it hurt so much I just had to go down anyway. The next round he knocked me down 3 times. He hit me in the stomach with a left hand in the sixth. That wasnt a knockdown either. It couldnt be. I was paralysed. I just couldnt move, I couldnt move enough to fall down. that was it."- Marty Marshall

Note: while some may point to liston being knocked down as a bad mark against his chin, i disagree. Liston was caught by an off balance shot and only his glove touched to the canvas for a flash 1 count. Its not like liston was physically knocked down. In larry holmes 8th pro fight, novice Kevin Issacs floored and hurt badly larry holmes. Before you try to say larry holmes had not fully grown into his physical maturity, NEITHER had liston!



3rd fight: Liston wins every second of every round in a one sided shutout 10 round decision. Marshall ran away, he did not want to feel the pain of listons blows ever again.


"I just knew I couldn't let him touch me this time"- Marty Marshall

 

it was a split decision loss, a very close one. liston had won the first 3 rounds going away knocking marshall down in the 1st, before the punch in the 4th. how was it one sided? wheres ur source?

 

wait when did marshall knock him down and break his jaw in the same fight?? wheres ur source??