Why does everyone say SRR was the best of all time

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Nawfal, Aug 26, 2007.


  1. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    He maybe has a chance to KTFO Jermain Taylor, that's perfect for my current status as a boxing fan. I'm not a top poster, I just post way too much and boxing fans don't agree.

    I'm going to start posting less and less.
     
  2. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    That pretty much goes for everyone, not just guys with extensive amatuer careers.

    True, they were. But most fighters aren't like DLH or Tszyu.
     
  3. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Someone who ignore the American boxing media and appreciates Calzaghe to a more appropiate level - ie see him as best of the decade.
     
  4. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Oh, not hero worship, just loyalty. You've watched the Taylor apologists weed out bit by bit over time, this would never happen with Calzaghe's hardcore fans under any circumstances. Winky fans were on a high last year also, less and less now.

    Calzaghe's hardcore's will stand by the fact that he is/was an underappreciated physical phenom that was ripped off from having the type of legacy that he deserved no matter what happens.

    CHJ has turned this place into Calzaghe land, maybe that has an effect. It doesn't matter regardless and I'm intoxicated.
     
  5. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When you lose (not via KO) to a fighter you outclass in several other meetings, there is something gone wrong. Maybe Robinson was rusty, you know more, what went wrong that night?
     
  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    That would be a pity.
     
  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Did he ****!

    Agreed.
     
  8. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    None of them were real fans anyway. Kids who got caught up in some hype.

    Sorry to say, but when Joe C does lose his first fight, his fans will weed out as well.

    He couls have made them happen. HE could have gone to Germany and beat Ottke, which I would expect. HE could have had his promoter try HARDER to make a Beyer fight. He could have come to the US and fought Jones @ 175 if he was serious. Or NOT pull out twice vs. Glenn Johnson. Instead, it seemed he, or his promoter, wanted fighters to come to him. And that's hurt him legacy wise.

    CHJ is a clueless tool. He argues semantics, not boxing.
     
  9. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Boxrec.com is worse. They think the current version of Bernard Hopkins is superior all around to Joan Guzman and Cristian Mijarez. I actually take offense to such idiocy.

    But boxing fans are actually turning me off to the sport a little bit more and more. Maybe in 5 years I will not even follow it anymore. Everything to it's wrongful glorification of overrated guys, to it's unrestrained capitalism shutting out the best matches, to the dumb fans, to the western bias.

    Gets old, and the MMA event last night was awful for my purposes.

    I have a bruise on my forehead from training, my lady didn't want to **** tonight I think because of it. I need to mentally unwind.
     
  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Kick back bro; this has **** all to do with boxing and more to do with your mental state.

    You'll feel better soon. And you know as well as anyone that there's a cracking fight just around the corner.

    Might even be november four or whatever it is.
     
  11. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    He actuallly doesn't even argue semantics that well.
     
  12. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    There is nobody from 160-175 that will defeat him at his best if he doesn't seriously decline. But I'll hate those kids who weed out if they do.

    Ottke ducked him, Beyer also. This was universally known at the time, Warren made multiple offers and offers that benefitted Ottke and Beyer for fights in Germany. Why would they fight JC?

    Jones had nothing to gain from a threat in Calzaghe, who pre-Lacy meant **** to the international community. Wasn't going to happen.

    Johnson is really the only claim, 1 was injury related, haven't researched the other but I do have an idea.

    CHJ is a genius.
     
  13. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I have a 100% record picking winners mate.

    The classic forum is just lucky the time machine I built isn't working yet, otherwise they and Willie Pep would get embarrassed.
     
  14. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    The technical skills you have listed are IMO a totally ficticious arguement. You have no way of proving that these guys learnt these skills after there first 200 fights. Logic would suggest that for the most part even 200 amatuer fights is unneccesary to a degree. There comes a point when you just simply plateu. Take Floyd Mayweather for instance, who from memory only had just over 100 fights. Or to an even greater extent fighters like Rahman or Mundine who don't even have amatuer careers yet can still prove themselves to be world class. Having a ridiculously high number of fights really achieves nothing in terms of increasing the fighters skill base, and often times is detrimental to their longevity. This fact is obvious throughout boxing, as there are many fighters who despite short amatuer careers, can beat guys in the pros who are vastly more experienced.
     
  15. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I didn't list ANY technical skills. I made this PERFECTLY clear at the top of my post.

    I'm afraid I didn't read the rest of your post because it was based on a fictional basis for response. Hope there wasn't anything importnat in there.