Why does everyone say SRR was the best of all time

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Nawfal, Aug 26, 2007.


  1. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Although learning curves do very, it would take an incredibly slow learner to be gaining something significant from a hundred fights.
     
  2. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    You just have to understand how utterly annoyed I get with 'in circle fighting' and biased rankings. Taylor and Hopkins at the moment, along with Wright.

    Say Danny Green took Tarver July 2006 instead of Hopkins when Tarver had the belt, if Green KTFO Tarver in a one sided blowout, Tarver's just old. Hopkins pulls a one sided nice display and it's a ****ing masterpiece of course, but both Hopkins and Green would have had to jump up in weight to fight Antonio.

    So Hopkins gets the top 3 P4P spot, Green would have gotten NOTHING for his jump and brutal domination. Same with Green if Wright then jumped up to fight Green if he had the belt from the Tarver win and Wright figured that he could beat the crude kid. If Green KTFO Wright in that scenerio, same one Hopkins fought, Green's not P4P STILL.

    **** that ****, biased in circle fighting mother ****ers. This shuts out guys like Mijarez, who's a true fighting machine from being recognised officially as something amazing and I despise it to the utmost level. Mijarez will likely get no fights and will be avoided after his one sided trashing of Arce.

    Well, likewise with Calzaghe's whole run, he had to take who he could get and what he could make a living off of because of the way the sport is.

    That's why I am sympathetic to underrated talents and why I hate hype jobs.
     
  3. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It is frustrating trying to point it out to them, but the fawlty logic deeply ingrained in their minds.

    The positive is you can make money betting against them, as you well know.
     
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I sympathise with a lot of what you say, as you know.

    Sometimes you come across as over the score though.

    Anyway, as I said, it would be a pity if you posted less.

    Kick back a bit, read more and post less if you're feeling it but be sure and come back brighter.
     
  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Total pish. It is possible, for example, for a fighter like Armstrong, who employs a certain kind of style almost exclusivley, to learn, in his 101st fight, how to slip a jab on the back foot versus a murderous punching southpaw.
     
  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    You don't even try.

    I consider what you do to be on the same level as trolling. You fire something out, usually inflamitory, and then fail to back, explain, or inform it.

    The worst kind of poster, then.
     
  7. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    No I said part of your post claimed that fighters could learn certain skills only after a high number of fights. This is a ridiculous arguement. You not only have no way of proving it, but no reason behind this to show how you have come to this point of view. As for not reading the rest of my post, i guess ignorance is bliss. If thats the only way you can be comfortable with your opinions then I pity you.
     
  8. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    I can't just sit here and read, that's boring. Things just itch at me to reply and that's why I have such a high post amount.

    I really don't spend that much time on here, I'll come in off and on and post up a high volume in 30 minutes and then that's it for however many hours, repeat, unless I have an off night like now, in which I'll volume to the utmost level. But I log on everyday, maybe that's sad, and I always get drawn into some type of debating discussion.

    I'm definitley a swarmer. I'm not a tactical boxer-puncher.

    Boxrec is the only other boxing place that I visit, but I rarely can be bothered to post anything because of the ignorance level at that excremental forum.
     
  9. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is why people employ specialist sparring partners.

    Of course fighters learn about there opponent when fighting them though, that is stating the obvious somewhat.
     
  10. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    When will Joseph Stalin be having dinner with main AWU leaders?
     
  11. McGrain

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    The very top of your post:

    Which kind of renders your above a little redundant, no?


    And you no way of disproving it. But i've already listed fighters earlier in the thread who have "suddenly" improved after hundered(s) of fights. What is your explanation for their improvement if they haven't improved? :lol:

    As for not reading the rest of your post; it started with a complet falshood, a clue it may not be worth my time.

    I've read is since.

    I was right.
     
  12. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    Ridiculous. Why could he not learn this in his amatuer career or his first 100 fights, or sparring for that matter? Are you claiming that in his entire career, in training and in sparring and in fighting itself that he would never have encountered a big punching southpaw?
     
  13. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Look, you have ignored the rest of his post entirely.

    You are responding with your defence mechanisms. In auto-pilot dismissing views.

    Although you usually hold your own, you are off the mark on this particular topic mate. No level of debating skill will turn this around.
     
  14. McGrain

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    Learning in sparring v learning whilst fighting is just...so...completley differnt I can't believe I need to tell you.

    And storing this knowledge for the next time you fight a similair opponent (more likely if you fight more often) is also so incredibley obvious in terms of benefits I can't believe i'm bothering to explain it to someone at this time of the day.
     
  15. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think I'd want that.