Why does everyone say SRR was the best of all time

Someone who has gone for 10 miles runs, done some intense interval training, done bagwork and sparred some rounds is in better physical condtion to go 15 rounds in a fight.

Why else do boxers (or any other athlete) even bother training?

The man who has been overloading in training is best physically prepared. Of course past experience over the number of rounds is useful, but you won't be fighting at a very fast pace unless you have overloaded in training.

 

Young fighters are brought through slowly so they can get used to being in the ring and get used to pacing themselves.

You could be physically conditioned to fight 15 rounds in your first fight - however mentally and technically you wouldn't be ready. The required fitness though would be there.


Getting fit through a mixture of instense training and less ferquent fights is vastly superior to regularly fighting, with less instense training going on in the background.

It is why the competitors in just about every physical sport out there prefer a decent period of time between competitions.

 

Now it is you trying to exclude.


Are you really this unfamiliar with training principles?

Ali wouldn't do Manilla in the gym, he'd do more than Manilla in the gym.

He'd have thrown punches at a more intense pace (for a shorter time).

He'd have excersied longer than 45 minutes (15x3) but at a lower intensity.

Just not at the same time.

You do more in the gym, you overload your system. You just overload different things at different times. Then it all the different elements come together during competition.

A proper, full training cycle implementing very instense training, is far far better than fighting very frequently, with more moderate training.


Sugar Ray Robinsons fighting of 200 opponents, had a negative effect of his ability.

 

Yes, it is 9 weeks. The fight is 15 rounds. Of course he did more in the total of 9 weeks.

If he hadn't done more in training, if he hadn't overloaded during those 9 weeks, he would not have been able to do what he did in the ring that night.

The fight was harder than any individual training session as it was working everything at once, but he was able to work indivual elements harder, by themselves in training. Whichj is overloading, which leads to great improvement in physical conditioning.

 

awesome thread

 

You obviously have no clue how the fundamentals of the body and mind work. They both need to recouperate and absorb what is learned. Training too much will actually weaken you. Intense training like fighting will be far worse.

Examples from other sports: Lance Armstrong only trained for Tour de France and won 6 times in a row. Made only a few tuneups before the event. Everyone else were participating in many, many more competitions and failed.

Russian super-1st 5 in the 80's trained 3 times more than anyone else, but were only slightly better than ie the swedes in Icehockey, coupled with the fact they were probably also using anabolic steroids en masse, as were all other on the eastern front in the 80's.

 

McGrain, you lost me 5 pages ago when you denied that humans are getting bigger, stronger, and faster.

You're wrong.

I think it's nice to play sentimental and act like the old timers are the greatest ever, but it also leaves out so many facts of the time it's not even funny.

Fights were routinely fixed, and guys went on tours much like a circus to put on shows. I honestly believe that most of the so-called ATG wouldn't hold a title to even the champions of today, maybe some could, SRR probably as with a few others could I'm certain.

Yet just like other sports, you honestly can't compare eras.

Things were so different back then, and you can say yeah it's the same game, but it's not.