Why does Floyd get no credit for his victories above Welter??

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by liljp361, Aug 20, 2008.


  1. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    I never made a point? You completely ignored everything I said.


    I said Floyd walks around at 149ish when he fought at WW.

    You tried to say he walks around at 155-160. Which wouldn't make sense because if he did walk around at that weight why would he cut an extra 4lbs to weigh in at 150 for a 154 fight?
     
  2. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    He's getting credit for those victories from me . . . a win is a win . . . but it's not enough for him and his delussional nuthuggers to claim he ruled 147 or much more . . . 154.

    Baldomir being a linear champ is only by chance after defeating a very inconsistent Judah and doesn't represent the best at 147; Judah was already starched by Kotzya at the lower weight and beaten by Baldo at 147 before PBF fought him; Hatton is a 140 pounder who's struggling at 147 and . . . PBF didn't fight the old DLH at 147 (at welter) . . . it's at 154.

    So officially PBF has only one fight above welter. :deal
     
  3. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Ok, let's get a few things straight. Number 1, Floyd fought Castillo at 135, not 140(It was actually his first bout at 135). Number 2, Floyd hasn't struggled to make weight since his last fight at 130. Number 3, he definately didn't struggle to make 140. His last fight at 140 was against Gatti. He bragged about being at 140 a week before the fight.

    On to Hatton. Hatton loses to alot of WW's due to the fact that he's a pressure fighter. He relies on his strength to overpower his opponents and wear them down. Most guys he was fighting at 140 came in weighing between 145 and 150. At WW, those guys are coming in at 155-160. That's why he wouldn't be as succesful at WW. However, Mayweather is not a typical WW. He came into his WW fights at the same size as the guys Hatton was fighting at JWW. The weight isn't what cost Hatton. His inablity to penetrate Floyd's defense, or avoid any punches is what cost him.
     
  4. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    :patsch I'm quoting myself here,do you get it now?
     
  5. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    It's hard to understand a run on sentence and words that arn't even spaced.
     
  6. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Duran was out of shape. The guy blew up to like 240. Leonard even admitted that offered Duran a rematch because he knew Duran was partying hard and grossly out of shape.
     
  7. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I said that he walks at 160 NOW,but I do not know how much he walked around when he was fighting but I think it was probably 153-155 THEN.NOW is NOW,THEN is from december 07 into the past
     
  8. Thread Stealer

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    Mayweather's fights at 140 were dominating wins. Despite getting rocked in round 4, he won every round, or 11 out of 12, against Corley. He dominated overmatched Bruseles and Gatti.

    Hardly any "struggles" at junior welterweight for Mayweather.
     
  9. Thread Stealer

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    I know all about Leonard and his team and Duran's habits, but I think that figure has been exaggerated. They touched on that in Duran's biography. He put on weight and partied, but it wasn't like 90-100 lbs. over his fighting weight.

    Regardless, my point is that there will always be some detractors, even if the fighter has an impressive a run as the one SRL had from 79-81.
     
  10. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

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    above welter? well he only the fought DLH in an overglorified sparring match, with both afraid to fully commit themselves to total victory, hence the SD
     
  11. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

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    Well eze you're wrong PBF did and does walk around at 160. Why did he show up at 150 for a 154 lb fight? It's called training mate. So stop bullshiting yourself
     
  12. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Floyd has stated numerous times that walks around at his fight weight when not in training for a fight, that's because he is always in the gym even when not training for a fight.


    Floyd didn't walk around at 160 when he wasn't fighting.
     
  13. Thread Stealer

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    It's not like anyone is around to weigh Floyd for his walk-around weight.

    What is clear, however, to anyone with eyes, is that Mayweather is a small to average sized welterweight at best, and has been the smaller man in the ring in some of his biggest victories.
     
  14. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    No one is near him to weigh him but at a beach party I saw the link from ESB he was there and said he is in great shape at 158 and a half,what's wrong about that?
     
  15. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    FLoyd only had 1 fought above Welterweight if im not mistaken:huh