Why does Floyd Jr. Hate Arum?

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  1. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Does anyone know WHY Floyd is so reluctant to work with Arum? I'm asking for a LEGITIMATE gripe that Floyd might have, not some BS blamed on negotiations or a purse disagreement. I mean, there has to be something that has elevated Mayweather's disdain for Bob.

    Did it start w/ Arum trying to make a Margarito fight? Anyone?:huh
     
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    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl


    But seriously, Bob Arum (like most promoters) is a ****ing snake. PBF always thought Bob Arum was holding him back, making alot of money off of him but not paying him the money he felt he deserved.

    Like DLH before him, he had regular contractual disagreements and bought his way out. Arum has made no secret of his disliking of PBF and vice versa.

    Fighters and promoters split up all the time. PBF does not want to put more money in his pockets (but if they settle the suit, he would work with him I'm sure).
     
  3. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    I'm not really too sure about this either. I'm sure it is something dumb and blown out of proportion giving us the illusion that the beef is all hardcore ala Oscar/Bob. I mean OBVIOUSLY theres distaste now because Bob definitely is a grumpy old man and he has been dogging Floyd in interviews saying how hes "ducking cotto" etc etc. But all that aside I wouldn't know why the beef is there in the first place.
     
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    thespecialone Active Member Full Member

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    Its all about money owed from when PBF used to be signed at top rank by PBF too top rank then money owed by top rank to PBF for a fight after he left them
     
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    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    That just about happens everytime a boxer makes it SO BIG that he basically doesn't need a promotor like that taking his money.
     
  6. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    I guess Floyd is bitter he wasn't getting more money...despite not many fans caring for his fight?
     
  7. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It was mainly a marketing thing. He felt he should have been bigger than he was earlier in his career. He really had no buzz behind except for the hardcore boxing enthusiast.
     
  8. bigeddie27

    bigeddie27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    basically floyd got bigger than arum and arum being the savvy entranaponer that he was, made sure to take the lions share while the getting was good. Floyd knew this, and I bet the breakup was planned a long time ago. just business. But would floyd be who he is today without bob? I am sure he could of, but would have been a scary road to take without someone like bob in your corner.
     
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    daz52 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think he is still owed money from the Judah fight
     
  10. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Was Floyd like, unaware that he was NOT DRAWING? :huh
     
  11. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    No matter what Floyd thinks, or does with his own promotions, he will NOT promote himself better then Arum can. Hell, if it wasn't for Halton and DLH, he'd still be doing 400K buys (which is still damn good).
     
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    He is but Arum refuses to pay him as he says Floyd owes them money from when he was a top rank fighter,apparentlyits going to court soon.
     
  13. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    With better marketing, he would have drawn. He was fighting on Free HBO against decent but unpopular comp.

    Once he left Arum, he started to bring in bigger crowds. Now he is everywhere. De la hoya has had a lot to do with that, but PBF is a draw now.

    He never got this degree of success with Arum.
     
  14. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, but Arum did not get those fights for him. You make like Arum is this innocent person in all of this, but he has had many fighters leave him for various reasons. He is a snake, and I believe he probably did cheat PBF.

    And he was also under federal investigation a few years back.
     
  15. C Money

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    Cuz MONEY MAY got smart enough(enlisted the right help) and knew that he was in position already to call his shot, SEE DLH! Whose own feud was similar as he moved on as well. Floyd bought his way out of Margarito and was able to set up the Golden Boy.

    I dont care for the way Bob's always done business. Hell, the whole sport needs help in that regard. So I dont blame Floyd 4 going free agent. Realistically? That makes a ton of sense once established.
    Given the promoters profit margins over time? Its real hard to feel sorry for them. While they fund the events? They dont make the fighter's. Some may argue that? But it takes a special guy, with special abilities to be on top. Why shouldnt they rise? Fighters deserve the money. The sport's history is littered with sad stories of fighters being broke and financially ruined.

    All in all and in the end? Its a business and the pie's gonna get split, floyd's gonna get his end and Cotto has to pay Arum more. So why the **** that matters to Floyd? Isnt reasonable. As you pointed out in the other thread? Floyd was willing before, but not now? At which point did Floyd decide he needed "Mega Stardom"?

    :huh

    :lol: