Why does Golovkin gets criticism but Crawford doesn't

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  1. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Plenty of people felt GGG lost to Jacobs, not Alvarez. Most everyone who have credibility within the world of boxing said GGG beat Alvarez in clear fashion. It was split as to who felt won the fight between Golovkin and Jacobs.
     
  2. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In your opinion DJ "beat ggg by 3,(THREE) rounds ? Once you understand boxing scoring criteria you'll be on your way to learning how to score a fight breaking down the video, very slowly, round by round. Scoring live is very difficult. Expectations play a major role in screwing up your scoring.

    Saying this, if you truly scored the ggg Jacob's fight for 3 points for DJ you're truly clueless on what you're watching.

    Now back to your silly opinion. Ggg beat DJ and canelo who are both way too superior to anyone TC has ever fought, never mind beat.

    TC had always been a WW, ggg has always been a small ME. TC fights literally within a few pounds of ggg on fight night. Let that fact sink in prior to posting more idiocy
     
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  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C F 12 Stay Dangerous Full Member

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    Once again coming in on me but neglecting to do the same to posters who hate on Crawford. You're not the police except when it comes to me. BTW I know other words and their meaning, if I want to use the word "hate" or "hating" I will use it.
     
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  4. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Which posters hate Crawford? The idiots that I tend to ignore already? Maybe you should give that a try, you know, ignoring the idiots. But instead, you grasp on to every word they say, just so you can use it back. Does that sound smart to you?

    Hey, that's fine, feel free to hate all you want. If you don't see how that makes you look stupid, then there's no help.
     
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  5. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So YOU go after them. Like I said, I'm not the police. I don't see you going after 3G haters (weird!!), so why would you expect me to do stuff YOU aren't even doing.

    Just do this one thing from now on, you'll be fine:
    Learn to think for YOURSELF!
     
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  6. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Comes across that way on THIS forum because on THIS forum there are 9 Golovkin fans for every 1 Crawford fan and there are 13 Golovkin related threads for every 1 Crawford related thread. So I can see how it comes off that way.

    Also due to Golovkin holding a MW title belt since 2010 and only having fought two top 5 ranked MW's (both recently, one controversially). It took him 5 years, until the end of 2015, to finally unify titles or face a top 5 ranked opponent. Crawford won his first belt in only 2014 and has faced and beat that same amount, spanning a couple divisions.

    It just is what it is... Logical when considering the hype and discussion difference and looking at the dates (for those new to the party), really.

    Pretty weak "top two contenders" for the mythical "Pound for Pound King" title.
     
  7. Halfordscream

    Halfordscream Global Full Member

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    He's shot. All that awaits GGG is to be KO'd. He has looked like **** since the Wade fight (and it wasn't because of Wade who was complete and utter garbage - little to no athletic capability or talent). GGG has almost zero flexibility in his core now and is a sloth-like walking target with his face as the bullseye. His "movement" is ****ing terrible. Good thing he has an oversized skull or he would have already lost the last three fights. Nonetheless, when ANY fighter begins to demonstrate that his only defense is his ability to take punches to the face/head and "shake them off" the clock is ticking until he is brutally KO'd. No boxer can excel in this fashion. What looks like he just "shook off" that clean power punch to his grill is actually like a block getting hit by a hammer. Each punch adds to the pace in which his resistance is breaking down internally and will culminate with a big "surprise" when a clean punch separates him from his senses and he gets dropped, dropped again after he rises, and finally stopped by the ref as he is dropped a third time.

    GGG's movement is lousy (not that it was ever anywhere close to APEX level) and he is fundamentally stiff and lacking in mobility without any sense of guile. He is another Kostya Tsyu with a short peak, very good power for the division, but pedestrian innate athletic talent. He fought in one of the worst eras imaginable (which is the case for almost everyone in boxing in the upper weight classes because the sport has no meaningful participation rates (relative to other athletics/sports generally) and a scarcity of APEX level athletes pursuing it). He was terrible against Alvarez. A short 5'7 or 5'8" fighter landed all the heavy shots and was able to back him up whenever he decided to commit to moving forward. Relying upon your face as a shield even with a dogged determination to take it and continue means your career is coming to an end. He will retire early since it would take huge balls for him to fight into his 40s (for any fighter - with a caveat to the heavyweight division where there is no size limitation and a size advantage might compensate for declining skills a bit to elongate one's career) and face what it is like to get by on skill, talent, and experience rather than youth, endurance, quickness, and/or power. Once he gets clipped and really hurt he will be done. Should be soon but his "toughness" will answer that in due time. Almost never see any white boxer able to fight into their later years. He will likely be no exception (even in a lousy era) as while some idiots think that catching punches with your face shows he is a "robot", it really is evidence that the person has thousands upon thousands of hours of their lives posting on fan boards rather than being in the gym and experiencing anything themselves. Only a novice or fool can kid themselves that being repeatedly struck by a powerful force (no matter the sport) is indicative of something favorable or positive.

    Just think back to another ESB fav - Calzaghe. Once Joe stepped up he found that he was getting punched in the face and rocked even by old ex-greats. It told him that if he had stepped up earlier in his career he would have halved his career. He wisely ran for the door like a ***** (or a man well aware of his own limitations) and said a prayer for wise match making, and caution over bravery.
     
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  8. Kevin Willis

    Kevin Willis Boxing Junkie booted Full Member

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    Hahahahaha...

    Had to quote this rambling hatchet piece for all posterity. hope more of you take the time to give it a read through and get the same enjoyment form it as I did.

    In summary; For those who could not be bothered the author takes every stereotype ever used to negatively broad brush an E.E. fighter then applies them to Golovkin while using a current HOFer as example an example of GGG's ineptitude.

    Very reminiscent of uppercut artist!

    I will keep tuning in for GGG's inevitable KO loss that you claim is right around the corner. Forgive me for not holding my breath but you will simply move the goal posts anyway and find some more bigoted stereotypes to support your next rant.
     
  9. Swollen Liver

    Swollen Liver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who did he fought? Without taking anything from him, it's been a pretty easy road for him
    and it's not his fault. 147 will tell a LOT about Crawford.
     
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  10. Todd498

    Todd498 Boxing Junkie booted Full Member

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    Hahaha! And look at the Turd who liked his post. :D
     
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  11. The Akbar One

    The Akbar One Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'll be impressed if Crawford looks like a monster when he steps up to a comparative level of opposition. Crawford has no Jacobs, or Canelo on his resume. Crawford does have a fairly soft resume. He has the Russian Robot, and the mini Cuban. Neither are world beaters, solid wins, but not a Jacobs or Canelo.
     
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  12. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    His overall body of work as a pro still is very good....not great but his skills and abilities are undeniable. The guy can box. However, the true test for Crawford awaits him when he gets a truly great opponent who can match his ability inside the ring. At this point he's faced guys who are not on his level but have been solid opponents. Facing a Spence, Thurman or Garcia at 147 will definitely be the kind of fights that will answer the questions that are still unknown. I think he has the tools to beat all of them but that's pure speculation on my part.
     
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  13. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So, you're one of those "you must rewatch the fight in super slow motion, three times, only on a full moon, hanging upside down, with kaleidoscope glasses on, and a rope tied around your genitals" types, huh?

    That's funny. Because you know there are actually lots of professional boxers, trainers, and other industry men who you are calling clueless with that statement. If I had to pick one, I'd probably tend to side with those guys over the internet tough guy insisting peoples' opinions other than his own are "truly clueless."

    It is boxing. So much is up to the beholder. Variance of opinion is a given in this sport. Scoring the fight for Jacobs is not only not strange, it doesn't need to be explained nor should it be ridiculed. You can't change what's already been recorded and written, as much as it may pain you. We've all been there. Tough seeing our fighters fail to live up to our often unreachable hopes.
     
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  14. charliem333

    charliem333 Member Full Member

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    i been scoring fights for years now and not just the big fights you obviously got an high opinion of yourself thinking that your way of scoring is better than everyone (which alot of people on this site has this) YOU need to understand that boxing is subjective and its what you like i look for boxing skill and class in which jacobs was showing through most of the fight, you believe what you want but resulting in insults shows immaturity on your behalf
     
  15. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The GGG vs Jacobs fight was very close. I think the KD was the difference but I don't believe anyone who scored the fight for Danny are out of touch with reality. It was a fairly even split as to those who thought Golovkin won vs those who thought Jacobs won. That's an indication of a truly close fight. The GGG vs Alvarez fight on the other hand was competitive, but not close. The overwhelming response by the boxing community was completely one sided which is a testament that Golovkin won that fight in clear fashion. I think GGG has two fights where rematches are warranted but for two completely different reasons. He needs to give Danny the opportunity based on how close their match was with no clear winner at the end of 12 rounds and he needs to get Canelo back inside the ring so that a just decision or outcome can happen.
     


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