Why does it seem impossible to fight frequently?

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  1. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    If i was a pro... JUST starting out, would it be impossible to fight two times a month?

    What if a fighter wanted to fight every other weekend?

    For fighters who like to stay busy and fight a lot... (like chris byrd used to get mad he didnt fight more) that just seems complete crap to me, that a promoter or someone like that can get in the way of that.

    I understand that high profile opponents only have so many openings, that doesnt mean you cant fight on espn or non televised fights against non stars or names.

    Or is there some kind of rule or SOMETHING that keeps fighters on the shelves for so long.
     
  2. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    because most fighter kill their bodies to make weight. trying to maintain 108 pounds is very difficult. people who fight in that category nornally weigh over 120. you cannot lose that much in a couple of weeks and you surely cannot do it too often.

    also wounds heal within weeks but it really takes longer time to make sure they are not going to get cut easily the next time

    there are also some rules that prohibit fighter specially those coming off ko losses to fight immediately after
     
  3. bratwurzt

    bratwurzt Whore Full Member

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    That's why Audley Harrison is always out so long.
     
  4. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    thank you... i can def understand that...

    but lets say i just fought, and i stopped the guy in 8 rounds.... no cuts, i feel great, and i want to fight again by the end of the month... i would get right back in the gym, i wouldnt have to drain to make weight because im already fit....

    could i do that? and if not why? a promoter can actually tell me NO?
     
  5. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    -Amateur boxing is about keeping yourself in shape and fight dozens of fights a year. Win a lot, lose a few, it doesn't mattes until you win medals. 4x2 mins is not that horrible, especially if headgear is on.

    -Pro boxing is PRIZEfighting. You can make more money as a promoter if your fighter fights twice a year (very hungry and hyped fans) instead of 6 times (fan: oh, he's fighting again, I'm not that hyped, watch football). TV dates. Finding opponents. Organization fees and top15 fighters. It's very complicated and long to arrange a title fight for a champ.

    -Pro boxers fight very long fights, preparing for weigh-in and 12 hard rounds of punishment is at least 6 weeks, 10-12 at most. Body MUST rest after that. Even if it's a 1st round TKO, the 6-12 weeks of hard training and 120 rounds of sparring are there. It's not Tennis. You get HIT!

    -You have to perform on 100% unless u want to get KOd. Prepare mentally is another hard thing and you need mental rest as well unless you want to burn out quickly.

    I think every fighter (champ of course) should fight 3 times a year, that's a pretty good schedule.
     
  6. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Some of the champs fight of course very frequently. Mijares and Sosa are good examples. But that's because they fight their ass off and getting the same paycheck as a C/D/E level HW.

    Fighters early in their career fight many times as well, but it's a quantity (Chavez Jr.) vs. quality (Gamboa) thing.
     
  7. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i am not aware of any rule that prohibits a fighter doing that though there are a lot of things that could be involved.

    one is an opponent. sure, you want to fight twice a month but will there be an opponent willing to fight you in two weeks notice? and if there is one, does it ensure a good fight between the two or will it be a sloppy fight between a fighter in shape against an opponent who just did not have enough time.

    another factor may be promotion. if a handler wants to take his fighter to the top, he surely will not be pressured to taking 2 weeks to prepare for a fight. a good handler should find the best way possible to market the fighter.

    but if, as you said, a fighter is relatively new and really has nothing to lose i think he will be allowed to fight as often as he wants

    but it could really be dangerous. the body takes time to heal even if there are no visible injuries.
     
  8. Scorpion

    Scorpion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Robinson fought Lamotta twice in the same month so I see your point.
     
  9. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Good points... thank you.

    I still feel the fighter is getting cheated a bit for when hes just fought, feels great... is ready to fight again soon and will have to wait another 4-6 months before he steps into the ring again.

    Take Haye... its going to be another 5 months i bet before hes fighting again

    Or peter.... had a decent fight, is ready to fight again asap... but will no doubt imo be on the shelf for another 5 months. He could fight a journeyman next month on a non televised card.... it would keep him in shape training for the fight, keep him sharp, he could work on new things against a relatively non dangerous opponent... and he would get a pay check.

    but i see what your saying, appreciate it ;)
     
  10. Relentless

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    wouldn't it be easier to keep the weight down if you fight and train more often?
     
  11. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    it definitely would my point was that it is abolutely hard for full grown met to reach 108 pounds. they'd have to kill themselves. the amount of effort they give out to make 108 pounds is something that should not be done twice a month becasue you have to give your body time to recover. just like working out should not de done everyday becasue you have to let your muscles rest
     
  12. UKFightFan

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    Amir Khan has always annoyed me. He has won virtually all of his fights very easily without taking any punishment. If I were just starting out and I won a fight so easily I'd want to fight again as soon as I could. I guess in his case he has made a lot of money already and is headlining cards so he is not able and possibly does not want to fight too frequently.

    Fighting so frequently would also ensure that I stayed in shape and did not lose my focus between long layoffs.

    Obviously if I got injured or KOed then I would need time out to recover.
     
  13. MattMattMatt

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    Am I missing something? Why 108 pounds in particular?
     
  14. mr. magoo

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    There are and have been prospects who have fought on an almost weekly basis in the history of the sport. Former lightweight champ Sean O'Grady, turned pro at only 15 years of age, and fought 26 times in first year in the sport. Of course, once you start fighting in longer bouts and stepping up the competition, your frequency is going to slow down.
     
  15. Bodysnatcher

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