Why does Kessler get such praise?

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  1. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    I'm not a fan of Kessler, don't know much about him actually but you don't know the reasons for him not fighting Miranda. And turning down a fight doesn't mean he's a coward. Tyson paid money not to fight Lewis back in the day.....is he a coward with no heart or courage?
     
  2. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    I agree with this. He should leave the safe haven he has been in with Olsen as trainer, but it has to be someone who wouldn't forget his assets, but build on his strengths and diminishing his weaknesses.

    His corner were quite at a loss in the Calzaghe fight, but maybe because Kessler was in new waters - so a good experience for them as well - but that said, it's unforgiving that such a talent doesn't have the people in the corner who knows exactly what to do.

    I have never seen Kesslers' stamina been so crappy before, not even when he fought Mundine - and it makes me wonder.

    No excuses though - Calzaghe was the better man.
     
  3. RafaelGonzal

    RafaelGonzal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The truth I dont need to add a thing
     
  4. planetzion

    planetzion Well-Known Member Full Member

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    amen...he is a great fighter folks around here talk about him like he is a b level journey man
     
  5. RafaelGonzal

    RafaelGonzal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Kessler has got to do something more than just lose a decision to Joe C if that will be his only claim to fame the juice on that is starting to dry. He has got to step it up and fight one of the numerous talented fighters in and around his weightclass. Praise should be earned by actions and deeds in the ring. The quality of opposition and success one has had. Kessler has yet to solidify his standing. There are many who think he has the talent and potential to do great things. We sit here and wait for him to prove it. When is it going to start? or is Mundine, Andrade, and losing a decision to Joe C enough these days.
     
  6. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    168 is a good divison
     
  7. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    I am not saying that anything is fishy, more in the lines that Kessler, who had been waiting for this fight every since he beat Siaca, and supposedly would be in the best shape of his life - was totally fatigued at round 6.

    I acknowledge the fight was at high intensity and high pace, and the fact that Calzaghe has seemingly otherworldly stamina, but surely a prime fighter in the shape of his life should handle more than six rounds, rather than the rest were fought on pure will.

    Maybe it's just a fact that Kessler has lower stamina than Lacy, Brewer, and Bika, and then it's something that needs to be taken care of.

    I think Kessler is at some transition on what to do; Calzaghe was his main aim for 3 years, and collecting the belts in the process. The only fight that makes sense and is possible at this point is against Mundine.

    - Pavlik has no gain in fighting Kessler, nor does Taylor.
    - Bute don't want to, because he don't think he is ready to face anyone of Kesslers stature even if he is WC.
    - Mundine?
    - Miranda could have been okay, but what would be the gain for Kessler? Miranda is not proven at SMW, nor did he do too well at MW.
    - Froch and Inkin were supposed to fight each other, but Inkin failed again. So Froch could be a possibility.

    Kessler might be 28, but he has had his fair share of injuries, and has fought quite a few fights in his career - and it's not unnormal that a losing fighter takes a year off matches right after a big loss - so... It's okay with me, even if I would like to see what he has learn from his loss.

    PS Bernard is old, and always fights like he has no stamina. He has done this for years.
     
  8. cdsimple

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    You are exactly right about Taylor and Pavlik having nothing to gain from fighting him. Even if he would have fought and beat Mundine for the meaningless belt, he would still not offer much to either of them because he would still be an unknown over here.

    Thats why i just dont understand the thinking of him or his team when they turned down the Miranda fight. Why would Taylor/Pavlik fight him when the only thing he is known for in the US is the guy that calzaghe beat on HBO (thats what my friends who are casual boxing fans think of him). The Miranda fight offered him a golden opportunity to fight a name on one of the networks and get exposure to the US fans.

    That's why I believe he or his team were basically scared of fighting Miranda. Thats the only reason I can think of for them to turn it down.
     
  9. IrnBruMan

    IrnBruMan Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I hope you're joking :hey
     
  10. Faetter_BR

    Faetter_BR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't agree on the Kessler has a stamina problem. Kessler doesn't have the stamina of Calzaghe - nobody does, but he has got fine stamina - he didn't faded because of stamina-problems versus Calzaghe - he faded because he lost faith in his own abilities and his gameplan - and his corner "helped" with this - they where telling him that he wasn't doing enough from round 3 on (which at that point wasn't true) - when Kessler asked what to do the answer was: hit him more and harder! real genious!!!

    In round 12 he showed he had plenty of gas left

    Kessler had clear stamina-problems versus Mundine for obvious reasons. Against Andrade - a 12 rounds total action-fight - he showed fine stamina - versus Thysse for instans there was no problems with stamina either.

    Kessler needs to finetune his skills and work on having a plan B and C - just in case. And he needs a corner that can actually give him some prober advice while fighting - Kessler is normally very good at listening in the corner - we've seen that a bunch of times.

    As for the fight frekvens-problem - I agree 100% - Kessler should fight more!