Why does lifting weights do nothing for a fighter?

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by tinman, Mar 19, 2019.

  1. gerryb

    gerryb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i went to jail for a short time in 2016,before i went in i was a competitive powerlifter in the IPF with a 220 squat and a 140 bench.I was in a wing with a gang whom i made friends with and we would train.I paired up with a young tongan guy who had never weight trained ever,and we would use the prison issued jandals as mitts. Despite this guy never lifting a weight in his life,he hit with concussive power,it took all my strength to hold his punches. Some people are just born to punch.
     
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  2. gerryb

    gerryb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ive scouted the net ,Furys 250 deadlift was done with straps and it looked like he was rackpulling. Much easier than pulling a dead after you are drained from doing the squat and bench first. In terms of static strength you are right,its not that impressive,however theres no fricken way id get in the ring with Fury,he would take my head off. I agree with you,putting too much time into growing your static strength will have a downside,you need to have a balanced approach.
     
  3. gerryb

    gerryb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You just need to look at the example of Pudzianowski who was/is an exceptionally strong man. You would think just based on sheer strength alone he would of cut a swathe thru any sport he chose to compete in. He was fighting guys who would of struggled to lift half of what he could in the gym.
     
  4. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ****ing hell. I see the extreme ******ation is still strong on this forum.
     
  5. jimmyonebomb

    jimmyonebomb Active Member Full Member

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    As a novice amateur with a job, kids limited time etc i didnt personally like to use the precious time i had to do weights or specific strength training session. One trainer got me to do it for a bit of extra power, but i found i had to substitute either road work or boxing session to do it. Another trainer improved my power by just getting me to sit down a little and punch more correctly.

    If your a pro though or have all the time in the world maybe its beneficial
     
  6. mirexxa

    mirexxa Heavyweight Champ Full Member

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    I agree with this 100%. It’s funny how you call this a basic punching technique yet I bet most of the trainers and even fighters have never heard of it. The perfect example of this technique would be videos of Mike Tyson throwing double and triple left hooks on the heavy bag. Also his one punch left hook knockout of Carl “the truth” Williams
     
  7. Starprocombat1

    Starprocombat1 New Member banned Full Member

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    it depends on the weights being used. fighters may carry 2lb weights when doing roadwork to build endurance in their arm muscles.
     
  8. Mike_b

    Mike_b Active Member Full Member

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    James toney was ridiculously huge for the Rydell Booker fight, he was so stiff with muscle that he threw out his tendon in one arm. Possibly couldn't get r.b. out of there due to the injury. All I remember is max Kellerman saying "this is too much punishment that a young boxer was taking." Like a prolonged beating, no knockout.
     
  9. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Of course lifting weights helps boxers, not for power, but your at a big physical disadvantage if you’re weaker than your opponent. You mentioned Kovalev, but Andre Ward said it was easier for him to take over the 2nd half of the 1st fight because Kovalev was physically weak.

    In boxing a lot of guys are gonna be getting close, pulling your arms down, and throwing their body weight on you. All that takes it’s toll if you don’t have the physical strength to handle it.
     
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  10. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, because boxing is oh so different to any other sport. What an ignorant tart.

    Here's a tip for everyone, if someone claims to know about training but then they come out with "functional exercise" or "functional training" stop listening.
     
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  11. jabber74

    jabber74 Member Full Member

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    It was always said by the old-timers that lifting weights was a no no for fighters. It tightens you up and you lose that snap to your punch. I remember Terry Norris lifted weights, and I thought he lost that snap and quickness to his punches later on. Same with Shane Mosley. I think there is truth to it.
     
  12. MAD_PIGE0N

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    "Why does lifting weights do nothing for a fighter?" is wrong at its core. First, what kind of lifting - regular fitness, powerlifting, weightlifting (even that the last two are closely related in their base exercises, they differ in target), lifting for specific kind of conditioning and power? As depending on what you want, they can and they do a lot for a fighter.
     
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  13. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not if you train correctly.
     
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