Why does Lomachenko not trust his stamina?

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  1. Tyson379

    Tyson379 Active Member Full Member

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    The key in the Salido fight wasn't even the low blows and him being overweight. Lomachenko just conserved his energy throughout the fight and took rounds off. Then, he just threw the kitchen sink at the 10th/11th/12th rounds and won them easily and almost KO'd Saldio.

    Same thing with the GRJ fight. He coasted mid fight and let GRJ pick up some rounds and then threw the kitchen sink and easily won the fight. I just don't get why he doesn't trust his stamina and give the full effort.

    If it's a confidence issue or a real stamina issue it's the #1 thing that Loma has that works against him in the pros. If he could fully work at a high rate in just 10 out of the 12 rounds the scorecards would never be close. He wouldn't even need scorecards because if he hit Salido/GRJ that hard in the mid rounds he would have KO'd them later on.

    People talk about Loma improving his offense/defense don't realize that his stamina is the key. He'd beat Rigo if he didn't coast in fights.
     
  2. damian38

    damian38 BigDramaShow Full Member

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    it's a big step going from fighting 3 rounders to 12 in the space of a few months
     
  3. Scorpion

    Scorpion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah funny thing is he didn't even really seem tired in round 12 in either fight as he let some bombs go.
     
  4. shoe

    shoe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    seemed to me more like he doesn't trust his chin. the way he boxes expends a lot of energy even without a high volume of punches. his stamina is a non-issue. he has it in abundance.
     
  5. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    His style is really demanding when it comes to stamina. It's like a 15 min 3 mile runner trying to do 12 miles in an hour. Takes building up to.
     
  6. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The kid is pacing himself. He could do a better job but that kind of progress will come with experience. Based on 3 fights I say the kid Loma is getting some reall high marks for such a green prospect who's been thrown in there with some really good opponents.
     
  7. Beatdaddy

    Beatdaddy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Some of it might be that he's still conditioning his body for the pros, but I'm not sure it's 100% his stamina because his feet/legs are going non-stop, even when his hands seem to be taking a break. If it were overall stamina, his legs would probably be taking a break too. I think he might be too picky about openings before throwing a shot. He might be overly economical with his punches. He needs to let his hands go a little more to try to create openings through combos, if his opponent isn't presenting a target. Inactivity while waiting for an opening can hurt a fighter with the judges against someone who is throwing, just to throw, even if the guy who is throwing is being blocked repetitively. Judges see volume from one guy and the other guy doing nothing. It can be the difference in a round, sometimes... and with the judging these days where they seem to reward volume, it can be a detriment.
     
  8. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    I think it wasn't just stamina, Russell was getting off first with double triple jabs constantly in one round and didn't give Lomachenko the time to set up his own offense.
     
  9. Malph

    Malph Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Loma's still adapting to the pro game. Going 10 or 12 is very different than going 3. It's one of the areas where his lack of pro experience shows. Most guys come into the pros and work their way up to ten and twelve rounders. He's obviously very skilled but is inexperienced in aspects of the pro gain. A twelve-round pace is one area. Another is dealing with the BS tactics of a dude like Salido. He knows how to box for sure but he has things to deal with in the pros he didnt as a amateur. He's getting a crash course in the pro game and is dealing with it better than most would.
     
  10. Kid Cincinnati

    Kid Cincinnati GOOD BOY NATION Full Member

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    I didn't notice him taking rounds off against Salido.

    Against Russell, it just looked to me like he was playing matador late in the fight when he saw Russell was tiring. Because he had learned from fighting Salido the value of letting an opponent wear himself out and taking him into the late rounds. Or maybe he just wanted to give Russell a different look to see what would come of it.
     
  11. Ol' Bub

    Ol' Bub Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lomachenko turned it up in the 11th and 12th rounds his last 2 fights.
    I'd say it's more of an issue with him knowing when to step on the gas than running out of gas.
     
  12. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    agreed. as he has more long fights, he'll fine tune when to dial up the intensity at the right moments. it was a costly factor in the Salido fight, but I highly doubt we'll see him repeat that now that he's got some 12 round experience
     
  13. STB

    STB #noexcuses Full Member

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    Maybe because he pretty much jumped straight from 3 round fights to 12.

    Say what you want about GRJ's pre fight comments, but he was right to say that Loma doesnt have enough pro experience to know how to pace himself
     
  14. Ol' Bub

    Ol' Bub Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    GRjr looked like he was struggling with it when Lomachenko stepped on the gas in the 11th and 12th rounds.
     
  15. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Another ******, how shocking. :lol: