Why Does Mikkel Kessler Get Credit For Looking Ok In Defeat?

Absolute nonsense I am out of this thread your all canadian bute nuthuggers.

Froch has already beaten the best canadian fighter.

 

against who though ?

 

Unfied champ in a crap division. Who rated him? I doubt the majority of boxing fans even know who he is or can name one fighter he beat. He largely known for losing wide ot Calzaghe. What else?

Easy to do when you fight club fighters and journeymen. He fought Andrade and Mundine. Bute was shutting out Andrade before he got caught. He has proved nohing in the ring against any elite opposition. The only elite fighter he fought he lost widely too.



We know you are Calnuthugger, no need to fly your bull**** around here.

 

IF the US was the world then perhaps.

However outside of your narrow perspective of the world - no. Kessler was widely known internationally. Beyer had for example been voted German boxer of the year and Kessler beat him in a much watched fight. The Mundine fight made Kessler more well-known to the average Australian boxing fan than a Taylor etc.

But - I know - the US pretty much equals the world to you.

Have a look at the poll, and you will see that reality is different.

 

How many top10 fighter has Jean Pascal beat in his career?

I'll answer that for you. Not a single one.

I like Pascall and all. I'm rooting for him to beat Diaconu next month. But to say he's better then Bute is ridiculous. He's done absolutely nothing to suggest he is.

 

Scrub. Beat nobody of note.

Except that Mundine has not near the resume or pedigree of Taylor.


Again I know you dont have an argument and can only turn this into a nationalistic debate because you cant name any top level fighters that Kessler has beaten, but it really is sad. Just making yourself look like a big nuthugger trying to justify Kesslers lack of names.

 

Your perception of 'resume' is mostly a Hollywood cliche.

It is far easier to make a resume for American fighters. Lacy's greatest opponent was Pemberton. At the time, I claimed that Pemberton would not be in top 100 in Europe. Lacy beat him and Lacy isn't even that good. However, Lacy could still beat Sheika, Pemberton, the ref and Lacy beat an ooold Reid, Wiggins etc. Taylor has beaten fighters who have a name because they have beaten fighters who were built up like Lacy. After handing it down a few times it seems the hype is legitimate. IT is a little like Taurus Sykes getting built up, and then when Peter beats him Peter rides on that even though Sykes doesn't belong anywhere near top 30.

A guy like Sartison would most likely beat a guy like Allen Green. And he would surely beat a guy like Manfredo.

But in your US-TV mind I am pretty sure Green is waaaaay better than Sartison, because 'who has Sartison beaten?" .. right?

 

Americans, Mexicans, Puerto Ricans ect have to fight the best or they get no respect. There is no easy career for American fighters. Look at the early careers of guys like Jermain Taylor, Chad Dawson, Oscar De La Hoya, Roy Jones ect. They were put through the fire early. Then look at the early career of guys like Hatton, Calzaghe and Kessler. Not even close. You dont get respect in America fighting guys like that.

And please dont say European fighters are a tougher challenge. Winky Wright made a career off of schooling Eurobums. We see the difference in class between European elites and North American elites when they fight.

Again clown. Who has Kessler beat to earn his status?

 

That was decades ago. The current crop of American fighters are not superior to Europeans - if anything it is the other way around. The ones that still hold the flag high er Hopkins, Winky etc. All fighters who hang on from the previous generations. The current generation better keep fighting the Pemberton's, Sheika's and Manfredo's.

 

Who does Europe have that is as good as Paul Williams, Hopkins, Chad Dawson, Shane Mosley, Floyd Mayweather, Berto, Pavlik and Miguel Cotto. We even got fighters coming through the pipe like Andre Dirrell, Ward, and Kirkland. Please.

 

Euro fighters are beating American fighters and will continue to do such.

 

I was thinking that very same thing.

 

They are actaully...European fighters have gotten much better but the numbers arent there. There are only a few top European fighters. Outside of the heavyweights its really not that many. Adamek, Kessler, Bute, Darchiniyan, Froch, and Abraham. there is no depth which is one of the biggest reasons that so many rally behind them. There are more elite fighters coming from Puerto Rico then Europe.

 

I will accept three of those names as being current generation:

Dominant: Mayweather
Other: Dawson, Pavlik

The rest are either not really Americans but Latn-americans or they belong to the previous generation like I said in the other post.

For Europe:

Dominant (regognized as the no. 1 in the division): Wlad, Adamek, Kessler
Other: Abraham, Dsinziruk, Froch, Bute

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So at the end of the day, I can only see one dominant American among the current generation - Mayweather.

 

I'm going to ignore your asinine arguments, but Isn't it a bit disingenuous to pit one continent against one country, especially considering that continent has at least twice as many people in it?