Why does nobody ever seem to mention duran's loss at lightweight?

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Interesting. I did see Laguna's win over Carlos Ortiz a while back, but don't remember too much. I'd like to watch more of him.

 

This is something that was unmistakable watching Laguna who also did this beautifully. He would just drop his body weight to avoid punches and like Duran would punch on his way back up, using his legs to shift his weight into his punch. This technique leaves opponents in awkward positions after missing and also leaves them having to deal with punches coming from awkward angles.

Before the 3rd Carlos Ortiz and Ismael Laguna fight Laguna can be seen doing this in the ring while shadow boxing.

 

As if Floyd would beat any of those guys at that weight, or even fight them. Duran should get more credit for stepping into the ring with them than he should criticism for losing.

His best weight was 135lbs people.

 

IMO Duran and Whitaker have a lot in common. Both were four weight world champs, lightweight greats, and their defensive abilities were tremendous even though entirely different in how they went about their business in that regard.

Duran springs to mind as a come forward brawler, with Whitaker a speedy southpaw rubix cube. Whitaker you aint solving the first time, try again and again, then you might solve him. Yet both are extremely underrated in the categorys the other is strong in. Duran for his defense and boxing ability and Whitaker for his inside fighting and toughness.

 

Who of those would you favor Floyd over?

I dont see why those loses should need excuses, they are losses against some of the greatest ever at those weights. And not to mention one great win over SRL, who IMO is the 2nd best welter ever h2h.

 

SRR.

 

He gets the free pass because he later destroyed De Jesus in the rematches. It wasn't like De Jesus was a washed up scrub by the time they rematched. Their third fight was a unification as De Jesus had the WBA belt at the time.

What's criminal is that Esteban De Jesus never gets mentioned. If it hadn't been for Duran - he would have ruled lightweight.

 

joe calzaghe, what?

 

Middleweight is very debatable (some of the classic guys would definently say Monzon, Hagler, etc), but its hard to debate it at welter. Even though the footage doesn´t exist, the accounts and track record beyond welter are substantial enough. I would like to get my hands on the full Docusen fight... have seen a 3 minute or so clip of it.

 

De Jesus held the WBC title when they fought the third time. Duran was the WBA champion.

 

The fights I want are the Robinson - Kid Gavilan fights. Those are the lost classics of boxing. . .

 

What I would do for those... especially the 1st.