Why does Oscar get grief for fighting Forbes yet...

No he doesn't dan-b and that is not disrespectful to UliUli. Steve Forbes is not a "very decent" fighter as a tune-up for that Mayweather fight at 150/154 pounds. 2 Pound will have to grow into that weight and should know he doesn't have a good enough chance... So basically he is selling himself for the right price, not that he will dive like LaMotta against Fox, but this is all about Hoya looking good for the sake of that September PPV and potential buyers. Hoya-Forbes can never live up to what was a punch-fest Trinidad-Mayorga and let's not forget that both Mayorga and Tito were promoted by Don... Forbes was robbed by GBP against D-Hop, won against another GBP fighter Francisco Bojado, sparred with Hatton for GBP and now is working to promote another GBP fight in Sept... If he was to prepare Hoya and nothing more, there was no need for an official, professional fight. It is not illegal but stinks all the same.

 

Did you watch the fight? Did Vargas not try to impose his will by throwing nothing but power punches when he was able to push DLH to the ropes?? Did DLH not put on a clinic in the middle of the ring, landing jabs at will and making Vargas look slow and technically unsound? Did Oscar not knock Vargas into oblivion to be saved by the ref while he was out on his feet?? Wake up man, Vargas was destroyed by DLH. :thumbsup

 

that's only because de la hoya is a better boxer from the outside, so vargas had to try to brawl.

in his previous fights, he liked to pick his spots when to brawl, but was very adept at boxing.

 

So, I guess Tito is then damaged now by boxers with real technical skill after what DLH, Wright and RJJ did to him? Not mention what a stronger B-hop did to him by knocking him out? If you all want to use what Tito did to Vargas as an excuse for the guys later fights, then we might as well use the same psycology for Tito! :good And yes I called Vargas a brawler because as you agreed, that is what DLH essentially turned him into...or exposed him for....you could argue either way! Vargas' technical skills never impressed me much..even before he was destroyed by Tito.

 

It can't Kirk. Good post! There is no way to condone Oscar picking Forbes for a tune-up. He's TWO weight classes below him. TWO. Oscar will be 160 fight night. It's just a fight to get Oscar back in the win column and leave the Oscarexuals feeling he's the greatest. I can't believe Oscar has to go to a 5'4"
140 lb. fighter to be assured he could win. He could and will never beat the elite. He never has. And now going to "B" fighters?? And will it be PPV?? Don't be surprised. After all he stuck some of you for the Yori-boy fight didn't he?

 

DLH is just hated by WAY too many, you can't change that. It happened many times as well, an extremely popular rich fighter always has more haters than fans, and even if the fans were more the haters show up first.

 

a guy changing his style for one fight doesn't define his style overall.

did dlh gave tito a brutal beating? No.

did tito give vargas a brutal beating, knock him down 5 times, and then vargas promptly got dropped and hurt in his next fight against the so-so power of rivera after having never tasted the canvas before fighting vargas? yes.

did oscar not say "i added to the damage that trinidad did to vargas"?

and tito was damaged, mentally, after his losses. that's why he can't even decide if he wants to fight or not.

oh i retire, oh i come back, oh i retire again, oh i come back again.

 

Yes he WAS taking damage from a guy trying to KO him quickly....but what DLH did to turn it around and win with pure boxing skill over might was what I call a clinic. After some of the power punches he took from Vargas most thought he was a done deal in that fight...but what he did to perservere in that fight was amazing.....you were probably shocked on your couch watching it...going, "I can't believe what he is doing to Vargas now after the punches he took..." (getting warm yet :good ) He essentially did what Tito has never done....beat a guy using nothing but pure skill when his power wasn't enough....as in case with the RJJ onesided loss last Sat night.

 

oscar talks like he wants to make fights for the fans too much which makes his choice of forbes a guy who doesn't hit hard at any weight and whos a good 5 inches shorter a suspect choice. obviously odlh is entitled to a tune up but why not fight a fringe contender type at light middle or thereabouts?

 

Always look forward to your posts Kirk :thumbsup

 

It won't be PPV, it will be free on HBO. But I agree with the rest, so rest easy :yep