Why does Pac beat Floyd? Logical answers please.

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  1. skillswin

    skillswin The Sweet Science Full Member

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    so do you actually believe that?? OH JESUS...
     
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    Rexrapper 1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Now im a ***** :lol: Its typical on this site. Any time you point out a flaw, your called a ******* or ***** :lol: Anyway all Manny does is throw his jab (with no intention on landing) to set up his left. His jab doesn't land with accuracy. He uses it to sort of blind you then unload with his left. He did it against Mosley all night. Jab and left.
     
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    Let's make it simple... Fighters who gave Pac problems are not pure counter punchers or defensive specialist but counter fighters who goes to war with chin & heart... If Floyd jr got a Mexican chin & heart to counter Pac on a war like manner then he's got an chance but not exactly a sure win because Pac can put him on the canvass... Like I said before Floyd jr is tailor made for Pac, Why do you think he kept asking for a "level playing field" it's because Floyd jr knows his skills is not enough or better yet his style is not the style that can win against Pac...
     
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    OK goodnight guys this is too much for me....
     
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    are you going back to the scene where there are more *****s who can comfort you?
     
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    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Pac was on even terms with Cotto as far as jabs connected % in their fight. Can someone who can't jab do that?
     
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    Pac would swarm Void "The Woman Beater", angles, would not let up, however, Void will "never" fight Pac, never, fear rules Void!
     
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    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    Im a ******* but I dont even see Manny wins against Floyd.

    Floyd UD12 Pac.
     
  11. Rexrapper 1

    Rexrapper 1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Number 1. The fight was only competitive for four rounds. Cotto went into survival mode after that.
    Number 2. Cotto can't handle swarmer's. Manny was to fast and Cotto couldn't see the punches coming. If a fighter is shooting a jab in your face and you can't see it, you will get hit.
    Number 3. Manny countered Cotto's slow jab.
    Number 4. Manny only landed 27%. That is not a particularly high percentage.
     
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    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Not a high percentage, but against a fighter than was running away which was equal for Cotto jab connect rate with Manny coming at him.

    Under those circumstances, I'd say Pac can jab. It may not be an ATG jab, but it's no weakness either. The way Pac uses his jab suits his style which is to setup his power shots. Conventional boxers utiize the jab more. Pac is not a conventional boxer.
     
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    Rexrapper 1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Me personally, I think Manny has a **** jab. Obviously you don't agree. Yeah I agree that conventional boxers use their jab more. I also think that Manny doesn't need a jab. He is great at what he does. But when fighting Floyd, a jab is essential. You wont disrupt Floyd's rhythm without one. He WILL adjust. You just can't jump in on Floyd off balance like Manny does. He will get countered every time.
     
  14. Popshots

    Popshots Active Member Full Member

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    I have tons of money on Floyd and I appreciate the answer.

    Speed: I can see him having slightly faster hands. Roach has been building up his skill level so he not a wild card like he use to be which could work in Floyd's favor of not getting hit by something he can't see which goes with your assessment of his power.

    Work rate: If he fought at a fast pace he could take him out of his comfort zone line Hatton, but I'm sure Pac would be more affective in his aggression. On the other hand, the level of respect is so high that I don't see Pac trying to rush him especially with Floyd being a counter puncher. If he hurt him he would try to finish of course.
     
  15. Popshots

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    I'm not concerned with Floyd answering, "ducking" , testing or any of the B.S. Logic is what I'm concerned with. Of course nobody can predict the outcome of the fight. Pac's style is very open in my eyes. Why is he having such a hard time with Marquez who is the best pure boxer he has ever face? If you look at all of his opponents they tried to out brawl and out muscle him and paid the price. I can logically explain why I believe Floyd win, I'm looking for all logical answers on why Pac wins. Its very rare to hear.