Why does size matter?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Mr.DagoWop, Aug 25, 2016.


  1. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    I'm not taking ANYTHING away from Charles. He was a fantastic fighter. So good that, like you say, he was in the heavyweight top ten whilst only a Lightheavyweight himself. But once your good enough to be rated in the higher class, your big enough. That's when he, Maxim, Bivins, Satterfeild all became HW.

    All I am saying, and this boosts Charles, is he was an exclusive LHW for a very short part of a 19 year career BECAUSE he was so good.
     
  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    As always your arguments are thinly veiled.

    You're terrified Charles is gonna be always considered a LHW and thus somehow detract from one of Rocky's best wins.

    It's ok though, after all one of Tyson's is Spinks and he's also considered a LHW great.
     
  3. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    The goal posts have changed. A Ken Norton sized heavyweight wishing to be as high as 220 in the ring ON THE NIGHT is now a cruiserweight. Tyson, Holmes, even the first version George Foreman would be included into this.

    How can this be right?
     
  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I completely disagree.
     
  5. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    You dont think cruiserweights are often 220 on the night?

    They say little Canilo Alveraz is 180 in the ring.
     
  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    There is a difference between weight and rehydrated weight.
     
  7. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    I would like you to tell me what you think the difference between "weight" and rehydrated weight is.
     
  8. mostobviousalt

    mostobviousalt Active Member banned Full Member

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    One is the weight where you weighed in at.
    The other is what happens afterwards.
     
  9. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Yes we ALL know that part...

    What I want to know is what's the difference between lufcrazys "weight" and hydrated weight in relation to a 220lb cruiserweight (on fight night) and Mike Tyson circa 1987?

    He can't tell me the 220 hydrared cruiser is smaller than Tyson.
     
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  10. lufcrazy

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    There is no way Foreman or Tyson would have made a 200 pound weigh in.
     
  11. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Can you tell me what the difference is between a 217 Mike Tyson and a 220 hydrated cruiserweight or not?
     
  12. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    It is interesting that people are entering the ring these days 20lb above their weigh in weight.
     
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  13. lufcrazy

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    Yes, no worries.

    Tyson would not make the CW limit 24 hours before fight night. A rehydrated CW obviously would.
     
  14. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    It has become a fine art. There is a complete science into getting heavier and heavier men to scale so artificially low just for the moment of the official weigh in.

    I'm still waiting for lufcrazy to tell me the physical difference between a 220lb hydrated cruiser and 216 Mike Tyson in 1987 on the night.
     
  15. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    On the night what is the size difference? your not telling me.