Why does size matter?

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  1. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And all had different style to Dempsey....
     
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    If you class Tyson as a CW you must also class Dempsey as a LHW.

    You can't have it both ways.

    It also means you class the likes of Hagler etc as WW fighters.
     
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    What's that got to do with anything? Morrison wasnt a slick fancy boxer was he?
     
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    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Arr the legendary Tommy Morrison...... hardly an ATG heavyweight now was he.

    If Dempsey was around today and fancied being an also ran then yes copy Tommy Morrison by all means...
     
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    180 lb Dempsey kicks the ass of any super heavy to date. He had speed, strength, power, and above all else, skill. If size was such a factor where extremely one dimensional Tua would beat most champions from the eras before him who were vastly superior in skill, then Willard should have beaten Dempsey. He had a 60 lb advantage that day and had above average skills. It should have been no contest instead of the one sided most brutal beating in ring history that it was.
     
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    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Are you on Crack or Meth?????
     
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    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If size is no issue then why does everyone say Dempsey would bulk up.....
     
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    180lb Dempsey wouldn't be fighting the SHW men. he'd be facing men like Ward and Kovalev or Bellew and Lebedev.
     
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    Exactly, they seriously believe he'd try and bulk up and challenge these monsters of today. He could put all the muscle he liked on and he'd still be a small heavyweight. He'd make 175lb easily with the 24 hour weigh-in and would be a force in one of the world's hottest divisions.
     
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    It's one or the other for me.

    Not a mixture of both.

    Byrd, Holyfield and Haye added extra bulk to fight at HW.

    I could picture Dempsey at 215 pounds quite easily.

    Depends whether he'd rather be a LHW or a HW really.
     
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    That's what I said earlier, he could either go down the LHW route or the HW route, seeing as though no matter what he would know that he would be a small HW I think he would almost certainly make LHW. Forget about the CW division, makes no sense at all to fight in that division.
     
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    I totally agree.

    The choice is fight at his weight and dominate a lesser regarded division or sacrifice some speed to add strength and hope his skill enables him to compete in a stronger division.

    I think he could do as well as Holy did.
     
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    That's the thing, Dempsey was no Evander Holyfield. I doubt he would have anywhere near the commitment and dedication to bulk up successfully like Holyfield did. Let's not forget Holyfield fought at cruiserweight when the limit was 190lb.
     
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    That's the point though. Holy was a 190 fighter and similar sized to Dempsey.

    He then added weight and assaulted the division beating everyone he faced up until Lennox.

    Maybe Dempsey wouldn't be able to bulk as well, but for me Dempsey as we knew him was a better fighter than Holyfield at CW and I see no obvious reason why he wouldn't be as good or better than Holy with the same added weight.
     
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    He would ease past them an you know it kid. Bellew? Letbidev? My ass!

    Then without the old gloves and old rules jack would possibly need to bulk up a bit

    . The guy was a phenomenon anyway so he would do great and you know it.