Why does size matter?

I care nothing for the US Army regulations.

He obviously is allowed to hold as he based his career around it.

 

Interestingly, just saw that David Haye will be training down for Bellew.

 

but how can it be that (apart from carnera and a few exceptions) champions from the year dot fall within their chart. they dont now. if they do thats the exception.

the rules clearly state holding is already illegal. you wont find one rule permitting it.

perhaps smaller gloves might encourage more open boxing and less hugging?

 

You've made something up. There is no reason to compare boxers to US army regulations ffs.

Every MW boxer is heavier than the mens gymnast team, what does that tell me?

Smaller gloves make it easier to clinch. Was has been allowed to clinch for a decade so much so it's part of his game plan.

 

One thing that is being overlooked is the global population increase.
In 1950 there were approx 2.5 billion people on earth, now we have 3 times that number, 7.5 billion.
Couple that with better nutrition and the law of average says that you will naturally be producing both taller and heavier humans into the mix.

Maybe the U.S. army should adjust their height restriction chart accordingly, lol.

Choklab, please tell us your stats..height, weight etc, as i am honestly curious as to your issue with size mate?

 

they also encouraged more holding and hitting since it might have been easier to work one hand free within a clinch. maybe thats why refs were more eager to part them back then?

this could be crucial.

 

Here is the link.

http://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/army-weight-rules.html





Most champions before the 1980s are within the US army weight requirements.

Muhammad Ali with a height of 75" at age 17-20 according to Army requirements he would be allowed to be a maximum of 206lb. Between the ages of 21-27 he is allowed a maximum of 212, 28-39 yrs he can afford a max of 217 and over 40 a max of 220. If you look at the important fights Ali was in shape for he was within this level.

Joe Louis, Max Schmeling, Gene Tunney and Jack Dempsey all listed at 6'1" or 73" are allowed maximum weights to enter the army for the same age ranges of 195lb, 200, 205, 208. They were each within this.

George Foreman at 217 was bang on the maximum weight for his height and age when he beat Joe Frazier.

Shorter champions like Marciano and FloydPatterson were also within these maximumguidelines for a 71" height. 185-197. Joe Frazier a little over.

Then we come to Mike Tyson and David Tua...

Lennox Lewis, Rid**** Bowe and the Klitbrothers should never have been over 232lb by age 40!

If it's natural for big men to be so heavy for their height why are they so far off the scale on a modern army chart?

 

Your stats please?....very curious

 

6'1" 205lb. 44 years old Why?

 

Just curious as to your obsession with height and weight.
Some of the "smaller" guys on here seem to have the small man syndrome when it comes to discussion, you obviously haven't got that chip on your shoulder with those stats.....thanks for honest reply mate, appreciate it.

 

Haye talks a load of ****.
May just be like Wilder claiming to be 235-240 for Povetkin, then BAM he's around 225 in his next fight.

If he goes back to his prime HW days he will be 210, which may be training down compared to his last 2 fights. But it's his best weight. And the weight at which he fought Wlad and Chisora.

Also why would he need to train down for Tony?

Bellew is slow as ****.

 

i think it is easier when fighters are tied up to get one hand free with smaller gloves. maybe if the ref dosnt part them they both start holding and hitting each other -another foul- therefore more than one one infringement can occur. forcing the refs intervention. holding, holding and hitting, rabit punching. all three force intervention. with all that going on a ref has more duty to break each clinch like hes suposed to anyway?

i remember being at a show one time where a boxer says "if he dont hold me i cant rabit punch" and it drew a laugh from the crowd.

 

What the hell are using the US Army requirements for? It's logical to see why you would want your soldiers on the lean side. You wouldn't see Linford Christie running a marathon would you. Last I heard soldiers don't really wrestle each other to victory, it's all about stamina.