why does the commission even have the power to change the result of a bout?

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  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    what i mean is that even if they wanted to, the WBC should not be able to change the official result of a bout. If they are sanctioning the bout then they can change the way they view the result if they want but places like BoxRec should not recognize that change.

    Can you believe that ****? I can't believe Boxrec changed the result of the fight just cause the WBC said so.


    in the end the WBC is just one privately owned company among many that regulate boxing.

    Does anyone know if Boxrec is partly owned by the WBC?
     
  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Matsuda-Lopez no contest!
    [SIZE=+1]TKO8 washed away, third fight possible
    The WBC reports that the Boxing Commission of Cancun has changed the result of the Rudy López-Naoki Matsuda WBC title eliminator to a no contest. In accordance with a new rule put in place at the recent WBC Convention in Manila, although the cut suffered in the third round by Rudy Lopez was opened by a Madsuda right hand, the new regulation of the WBC stipulates that when a wound caused by a legal blow later becomes worse and prevents the continuation of the fight, a technical decision must be ordered with the bout going to the scorecards. After looking at the video, it was confirmed that the blow was caused by a punch, but after the cut had gotten worse following an incident in round eight (which the Lopez camp insists was a headbutt), referee Laurence Cole, against regulations, stopped the bout without consulting the ring doctor (who was indicating that Lopez couldn't continue) and ruled the bout a TKO win for Matsuda. Had the bout gone to the scorecards, Lopez, who was ahead on two judges' cards with the third card even, would have been declared the winner. To avoid accusations of favoritism toward Mexicans, it was decided to make the bout a "no contest," opening the possibility of another fight to clarify things in the ring. WBC President Jose Suliamán stated "We are tired of them unfairly taking away Mexicans' deserved victories, mostly in the country to the north, and we will not allow it to happen in our own homeland."[/SIZE]
    Monday, December 17 2007
     
  3. nervousxtian

    nervousxtian Trolljegeren Full Member

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    This is bull****, since when the hell has a cut from a legit punch been a technical decision?

    Are they making this **** up as they go? Also screw Jose Suliaman.. talking **** about the USA, you don't like are ****, stop sanctioning fights up here.. stop taking money from guys fighting in the USA.

    You want to talk ****, but we make you rich, what a hypocrite.
     
  4. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    so anyone know why Boxrec would even acknowledge the WBC's decision?
     
  5. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Well in the end the fight was ruled a tko. So don't you think its bull**** that just because Jose Suleiman was at this fight it can be reviewed if he says so?
     
  6. Cookie

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    :rofl

    It's hilarious that it says the fight was ruled a no contest to play down accusations of favouritisim. Then the very next sentence is a quote from that scumbag Suliman which blatantly suggests they did it purely because the guy was Mexican.
     
  7. PH|LLA

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    In the eighth round, with Matsuda continuing to take control and targeting the badly bleeding gash over the right eye, it appeared that the bout might be stopped by the ring doctor.

    This where mass confusion and controversy came into play. WBC President Don Jose Sulaiman, seated at ringside with visiting Don King and the governor of this Mexican state, said that that Lopez’s worsened eye—now bleeding like a stuck pig—was made worse by a head butt by Matsuda.

    Personally, I did not notice the butt—be it accidental, intentional or non-existent—but a point was deducted from the Japanese boxer’s scorecard and then the commission physician waved the bout off.

    A check of the scorecards, maybe not surprisingly given the venue, showed Lopez slightly head on two of the three.

    Keep in mind that Cole never called a butt of any kind happening in the final round nor did he order a point deduction as to Matsuda.

    Ref Cole declared it a TKO victory for Matsuda but two Sulaimans, Jose and son Mauricio overruled him, telling ring announcer Jimmy Lennon Jr. to call it a technical decision victory for Lopez.

    “Why don’t you come up here and referee then?” an enraged Cole barked at Don Jose.

    “I am very, very disappointed in Lawrence Cole,” Don Jose said. “I have done so much for this young man. He was wrong.”
     
  8. scorpy

    scorpy Veni, Vidi, Vici Full Member

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    Officially, it's the boxing commission in Cancun who changed the decision.

    And Boxrec are only keeping stats, they don't have any saying on this.
     
  9. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    well if the state commission changed the result it makes more sense
     
  10. scorpy

    scorpy Veni, Vidi, Vici Full Member

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    You posted the quote yourself. ;):lol:

    But overall, I agree this is bull**** !!!
     
  11. Cerberus

    Cerberus Kérberos, Hound of Hades Full Member

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    This is a load of crap. I hate when they have to change the result of any match. It just displays the incompetence of the commission and/or the referree.

    I also hate when they change the result after a fighter fails a drug test (for anything other than steroids/HGH/performance enhancers of any kind).. like when Tyson clobbered Golota to an early KO, but his test showed that he had smoked pot, so they called it a no-contest. Wtf? Does smoking pot make you a better boxer? :huh