Why does this boxer not get enough respect?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by brown bomber, May 19, 2012.


  1. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

    30,856
    17
    Jul 1, 2006
    49-5-1 (36 ko's)

    Wins over ayub kulule, prime micheal Watson, Julian jackson, Milton mccrory, don curry, Herol graham, steve Collins, Sumbu kalumbay, Jeff Harding plus a draw with prime James toney....

    I've left this guys name out on purpose, a three weight, three time world champion... Never stopped, only on the floor once in his career and only beaten in his own prime once and that was avenged.

    Is that not the ledger of an ATG???
     
  2. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

    82,426
    1,467
    Sep 7, 2008
    The question is why doesn't Kalambay get more respect?

    He beat McCallum, the man you're talking about, twice IMO and schooled him in the first fight, putting on arguably the greatest technical masterclass ever filmed, against one of the best all-round technical fighters of all time. Whilst Floyd Mayweather gets all the love nowadays, Sumbu was also a defensive whiz with a more diverse left hand who put on technical displays of the highest order against fighters of the highest order.

    I love The Body Snatcher all the way Jeff, but Kalambay had his number. Their 2nd fight, which could've gone either way admittedly, is one of my favourite two-way technical fights of all time, with more than enough action to satisfy even the more fidgety boxing fans.

    Sublime era!
     
  3. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

    82,426
    1,467
    Sep 7, 2008
    And yes, Mike is definitely an ATG! :good
     
  4. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

    30,856
    17
    Jul 1, 2006
    Is it on YouTube flea?
     
  5. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

    82,426
    1,467
    Sep 7, 2008
    Both of the fights are Jeffro (assume you're talking about Sumbu-Mike?) :thumbsup Would post but on iPhone :good

    You, as a longtime supporter of McCallum and serious student of the game, will be astounded.
     
  6. Goyourownway

    Goyourownway Insanity enthusiast Full Member

    2,667
    21
    Feb 13, 2011
    McCallum gets plenty of respect among boxing fans and has always been highly rated by those who really follow the sport.He's really not that underrated anymore.
     
  7. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

    45,002
    3
    Nov 28, 2007
    As predictable as night turns day :lol:;)

    That said, yeah. Both thoroughly underrated. Mike McCallum would absolutely dominate 154 and 160 today, nobody fit to lace his jockstrap.
     
  8. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

    45,002
    3
    Nov 28, 2007
    Kalambay-McCallum II was a big plus for Mike either way. Showed how intelligent he was, against a guy thats all wrong for him. Sumbu was an amazing mover with great defence and ring craft, plus while Mike was an absolute natural born fighter the same way somebody like James Toney is (but greater and more well rounded IMO) he wasn't blessed with the athleticism of Sumbu.
     
  9. BoxingAnalyst

    BoxingAnalyst Obsessed with Boxing banned

    19,099
    0
    Apr 24, 2011
    You have to watch Kalambay/McCallum, it is a must for hardcore boxing fans, the skill set of both men gel perfectly.
     
  10. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

    42,723
    269
    Jul 22, 2004
    Would the answer be, neither are American, British, Mexican, P Rican, ie countries with massive support bases. Jamaican's and African's are not packing out arenas and xenophobic Italians aren't for an African boxer either.

    Also neither were hyped to the hills and massive punchers to instil excitement into the majority of ignorant fans of this sport.

    It's all boils down to boxing being a cynical marketing and tribal sport
     
  11. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

    82,426
    1,467
    Sep 7, 2008
    Of course, but it lead me right into a rant about Sumbu's beauty ;-)
     
  12. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

    45,002
    3
    Nov 28, 2007
    I suspect this is pretty strongly on the mark.
     
  13. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

    82,426
    1,467
    Sep 7, 2008
    Lookin' forward to hearing Jeff's opinions on McCallum-Kalambay I :tong

    McCallum had one of his few quality early starts second time round against Sumbu. Agreed TFFP, that fight is so competitive and closely matched it's only fitting they both come out earning points, Kalambay for his late rally and for the outstanding technical display both put on and for the adjustments they kept making.

    Some very close rounds.
     
  14. BoxingAnalyst

    BoxingAnalyst Obsessed with Boxing banned

    19,099
    0
    Apr 24, 2011
    **** Sumbu! BodySnatcher all the way :yep
     
  15. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    25,495
    2,150
    Oct 22, 2006
    McCallum is probably a little underrated. Kalambay is as a whole, underrated; but on this forum, he gets tons of kudos, perhaps too much.