Why does Usyk seem to avoid in-form contenders?

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  1. Alexmadzorro

    Alexmadzorro New Member Full Member

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    from Usyk's interview on his YouTube channel yesterday:

    – You once asked the Klitschko brothers, “Will you relinquish your titles, or will I have to face you?” Now the question is for you. When the time comes, will you pass on your legacy to the next generation? Will the world see Usyk in the ring against his own fighters?

    – I am fully aware of the situation, I understand completely. And the first thing I tell myself when I say that you will soon leave boxing is here (points to his head – ed.). Some people cannot bring themselves to say that their sporting career is coming to an end, because their desire is incredible, but their abilities are no longer what they used to be, because their bodies are not what they used to be, and new guys are coming up. An old man cannot compete with a young man in terms of physical strength and speed. He can compete in some areas that he has accumulated over the years, but that is not enough to win.
    You have to understand that you have come a long way and now the era of other young guys is beginning. It's the same as today, if we go back, some people who boxed there in the 90s, in the 2000s, in the 2010s, when I was still boxing in the amateur ring. “If he were in my day, I would have knocked him out like nobody's business.” Listen, are you really talking about this? When a person says this for some kind of publicity, please, go ahead. It's okay.
    But if someone is serious when they say, “He wouldn't stand a chance there,” I can help you. I have a very professional doctor. I'll even pay for you. Please, go get your head checked, said Usyk.

    So I think he has finally given up boxing as a sport, and now, unfortunately, it's purely business. Of course, he has the right to do so, but as a fan, I miss it.
     
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  2. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's probably because he knows he already beat the best in the division and probably doesn't want to risk a loss against an inferior fighter just because he's old.
    People would then say, why not retire.
    But it's funnier if he keeps denying the 'Brits' a chance to get another fake championship from a scattered belt.
     
  3. Lonsdale81

    Lonsdale81 Active Member Full Member

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    Cos he prefers to beat the champions instead.
     
  4. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dillian Whyte :lol:

    I remember Whyte telling everyone that he wasn’t interested in fighting Usyk because “noone knew who he was” only to ***** about it a couple of months later when Usyk was made mandatory over him, as per WBO’s regulations which were in place even before Usyk made his pro debut. It really was hilarious.

    That Said, I hate this Verhoeven fight. Would’ve been one thing if he fought both Dubois and Parker last year, but It’s not acceptable with his activity level.
     
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  5. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    With out question on this Usyk should have faced Kabayel by now.
     
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  6. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyk fought Joyce in that semi-pro league whose name I can’t remember at the moment and whooped his ass.
     
  7. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Seems unfair
    I don't think he has been avoiding inform fighters at all
    You could use the example you have said to many HWs even if it doesn't give the full facts and details, especially if you angle your argument to suit

    Dubois was in good form when Usyk rematched him. Arguably the best form out of the other contenders, and that was Usyk last fight
     
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  8. fencik45

    fencik45 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    must have caught it from fury
     
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  9. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How do the money men prevent him from fighting more than once a year? Plenty of guys today are far more active

    Why would anyone want him to fight Ruiz or Wilder
     
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  10. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's a silly argument though. Given how Joshua and Furys careers panned out nobody would really care had Usyk never fought them. Had he stayed at cruiserweight many would argue Opetaia is better than both of them
     
  11. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    You are calling another argument silly?

    Fury and Joshua were the two best heavies of the post-Klit era before Usyk, and they were champs when Usyk beat them. There is nobody better or near equal to them for him to have fought. This absurd, almost willfully ridiculous argument basically removes you from the conversation.

    I mean, this argument is so bad, I am not sure I am understanding you right, and forgive me if I am not. You are saying that he should not have fought Joshua and Fury for the titles? Please clarify.
     
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  12. Banana-Rama

    Banana-Rama Active Member Full Member

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    You are talking absolute nonsense :duh
     
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  13. Cyrion

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    No, plenty of guys are not far more active than him. That's flat out nonsense. There is no HW on the planet fighting more than about twice a year. The guys in the Top 10 absolutely don't fight more than twice a year, if that. Before his current break, Usyk fought three times in 14 months against the best the division had to offer. I don't see him getting any credit for that, though.

    What is so difficult to understand about boxing not being what it was decades ago? There is no more TV money in boxing. Back in the day guys didn't get paid as much and the promoters had TV money to rely on to make fights profitable. All that has gone out the window. It's why hardly any big fights were happening until Turki stepped in with his endless checkbook. A promoter has to sell a fight, pay for a venue, put it on PPV, and pray they make a return. Same deal with movie studios just putting out sequels and superhero flicks. They do that because everything else is a risk. If it flops they lose tons of money. Promoters don't have Hollywood money. They can't afford any flops. **** has to turn a profit.

    Usyk is the top dog at HW. He has to get paid like it. Frank Warren basically owns all the fighters at HW. So if Usyk wants to make a fight with a Wardley or a Kabayel he's gotta deal with Frank. So Frank would own the production. It'd be Frank's ref, Frank's judges, Frank's venue most likely in Frank's fighter's backyard with an anti-Usyk crowd, and Usyk would have to accept whatever amount Frank decided on. Kinda seems like a good recipe for getting bent over and screwed with no ****, don't it? It's not at all surprising to me that Usyk bulked up and went for a KO against Dubois last year. He had to fight in Dubois' backyard, with a British ref, with Frank running the entire show, and who knows how the judges would have screwed him if he'd let it go to a decision. Turki put up a bunch of money and co-promoted it which is why Usyk was willing to do that fight. And also, if Usyk takes a fight with Frank at this point he's essentially killed any future business with Turki since I doubt Turki would appreciate Usyk doing business with the guy suing him for a literal billion dollars.

    I'm not thrilled with Usyk fighting this kickboxer dude either, but some of ya'll seem to be acting like naive children on purpose. Like you can't understand that there are plenty of behind-the-scenes forces that determine what fights get made in boxing. As if the boxer and the boxer alone is the prime mover in which fights get made. The money men have been and will always continue to be the reason fights do or don't get made. There's only a couple of guys that can break out of that mold and basically do w/e the hell they want. They're guys with built in gigantic national fanbases where they're the *insert race here* hope/Messiah. Currently there are two guys like that. Canelo and Inoue. Canelo brings all the Mexicans. Inoue is the Japanese king. Those guys can make w/e fights they want because their fights will always be profitable no matter what. If you aren't one of those two guys, you're at the whims of the promoters.
     
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  14. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Usyk was trying to get chicken legs in the ring for years, and eventually he was able to corner him. He couldn't go off and fight other random people to lose that opportunity.

    The current situation is admittedly suboptimal but Usyk appears to be looking for another big money fight.

    Does anyone think Wardley has any chance of beating Usyk? He was getting completely dismantled by Huni, landed a good punch and got the British stoppage. Usyk's chin is way too solid, and that is Wardley's only possible path to victory. So it is clearly not ducking.
     
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  15. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Possibly, possibly not.

    Parker was arguably in the better form, and was actually Usyk's mandatory. Dubois was also injured when Usyk selected him as his next opponent over Parker.

    Having said that, some argue the performance in Dubois 2 was Usyk's best yet! But if true, that make scheduling kick-boxer Rico Verhoeven for 10 months later even worse