Why does Whyte not get the respect he deserves

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  1. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Actually, that absolutely can be banter.

    People aren't hating on his success. They're hating on his self-entitlement, his gifted decision (no idea where you've produced the number 8 from, though there's an orifice that I suspect is guilty of that) and his general personality. All perfectly valid reasons to dislike someone. You don't get to dictate why people dislike other people; that isn't your realm. Same way we can't dictate the fact you seem almost infatuated with him.

    Also as for the 'likely they are economically poor and unsuccessful' thing, that is totally baseless and a particularly poor form of defense. "Well, only poor people and those with no goals in life hate Whyte, so...". It's weak. Plus, so what? The opinion of the most destitute holds as much merit as anyone else's on here. Like you said, people need to show more respect.
     
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    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    He looked somewhat reasonably useful as a puncher at one stage I thought, but he's done for now. Genuinely think Allen might even beat him at this stage.
     
  3. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Perfect utility? Forgive me If I don't take you seriously because the last time we spoke you pretty much admitted that you hate for no reason.

    So you of all people have no leg to stand on Paddy.
     
  4. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Yeah none of these opinions and comments surfaced prior to the fights, especially with Parker...

    All of you chat so much bull****.

    I was there when the comments poured in all across YouTube and boxing forums..
    dismissing whyte as a favourite alluding to him being levels below Browne and Parker...

    Now all of a Sudden they are.flawed....harmless creatures for opponents!

    Just further proof of the prejudice against whyte before and after bouts... the critique of him is.especially strong yet Ive seen no aense of entitlement..
    he goes in and delivers everytime.
     
  5. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Well he started VERY late... and he aint perfect... but hes a big man whos dangerous in the ring.. strong neck big punch and posed no problems for Whyte..

    Whyte toyed with him, when any punch from Lucas is dangerous....
     
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  6. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    No, I didn't. I said why I don't like him and said anyone is able to hate for any reason they see fit.
     
  7. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Yes they really are... they are hating the fact that he is successful and they don't give him respect or credit for his 8 win streak as of late. They dismiss the result of every fight, and Whyte's chances prior to the fight.
    These are facts because the comments are all over the internet you need only to dig them out.

    Can you give me specific examples of where Whyte has displayed self-entitlement?
    You dislike someone because they were gifted a decision? Did I read the correctly? Or did you make a mistake? That's like hating someone because they received a Christmas present.

    Whyte didn't score the fight, he didn't give himself the result...
    Your irrationality is seeping through your exterior... but then again I've seeny ou bleed irrationality in the past.
    Hmmm let me think to myself why I would dislike someone from a LOGICAL, mature perspective... we're all adults here right?

    Infatuated from your point of view, I merely defend a man that has been good for the sport... kept himself clean... made something of himself... hasn't given up... stayed consistent. I would do the same for ANY other boxer. In fact... I have... I've praised many fighters as of late.

    I never dictated anything... I inferred based on the evidence clear before my eyes and made an informed opinion based on what has been said in the forums.

    Not at all, rather it is a weak attempt from you to deflect from the reality of the situation. It boils down to the typical persona of a human being that hates others (or even dislikes) others simply because of other people's success or because their personality rubs them off the wrong way.

    It's called profiling and it's a concept that is used everywhere from sales, marketing, police/detective, Psychology...

    It's irrational and immature to hate someone that you have never met, who hasn't affected your life in anyway... and that hasn't affected anyone else's life (that you know of) in a negative way.

    AFAIK He doesn't do drugs, hasn't raped anyone... he's been a professional...

    The demographics of the English Defence League is another example of how profiling is quite accurate... I merely used the same deductions with posters on here that hate for no tangible reason...

    And you say "It's because Whyte got gifted"... you have lost the plot completely. Only a child would make such a statement.

    I never said it didn't? I am entitled to an opinion just the same, and I've exercised my entitlement to critique other peoples opinions and how they wreak of immaturity and irrationality.

    I am a logical person, I must inquire, I must ask why, especially when I do not understand why something was said, or why something was done.
    And out of all the boxers in the world.... you want to put down Whyte.... that **** is incomprehensible....

    You have boxers who:
    • Molest and harass women
    • make disgusting pranks like Billy joe
    • get gifted title shots while others have grinded
    • Never train or take the sport seriously
    • Turn to drugs, give up and retire
    And then you have Dillian Whyte... yeah let's hate on the Brixton Kid that made something of himself 8 years ago... and is still progressing today.

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  8. PaddyGarcia

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    He hadn't fought for a long time and when he did he looked absolutely awful. So he absolutely can be judged retrospectively, to say otherwise is just daft.

    Goes in and delivers every time? Did you miss the Helenius fight?
     
  9. Aydamn

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    Right, you know what, let's leave it at - you hate Whyte because "He got gifted a decision".

    What remarkable rationality to hate or dislike.

    Really makes someone wonder why the world is broken.
     
  10. Aydamn

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    I can't remember if you were the one who had problems with Boxing experts, but it's agreed by the majority that Helenius didn't show up to fight, but to survive. And it takes two to tango... if someone doesn't engage and whats to evade all the time... then you get performance like this. Whyte came to fight... ergo he delivers every time. He is not responsible for how the opponent delivers.

    You are consistently irrational now Paddy... use some more brain power. Whyte can't guarantee a perfect fight, he can only control what HE does in the ring.

    And no.... I never heard ANYONE say "Oh Lucas ain't fought in a while... he's out of shape unlikey to get in shape so Whyte takes this one"

    Don't you dare even go there with that excuse!
     
  11. PaddyGarcia

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    Yes, I can. His constant screaming that he deserves a world title shot yet running from Ortiz and Pulev. "but he'd be behind Breazeale still!" Breazeale was willing to fight him and Whyte was no where to be seen. Furthermore, his money demands (and Chisora's) have resulted in their rematch being on a PPV platform. That, is self-entitlement. You read it correct. I dislike that he doesn't acknowledge he was fortunate and then postponed the rematch for so long.

    I'm not irrational at all. Frankly you're getting ideas way above your station and the verbose drivel you're replying to everyone with is showing that.

    Urgh, it's not deflection. Try harder.

    If someone has caused me to dislike them then they've had an impact on my mood, thus my life. Meeting them is irrelevant. "He's been a professional" except for when he was banned, right?

    I dislike lots and lots of fighters. Like lots and lots of them too. All for varying reasons that I absolutely decide myself.
     
  12. PaddyGarcia

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    Have already disclosed why I dislike him but if you want to ignore that, then fine, I can play that game too.

    Right, you love Whyte because he suckles your toes. Let's leave it at that.
     
  13. PaddyGarcia

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    People mentioned his inactivity. Please stop lying.
     
  14. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    " His constant screaming that he deserves a world title shot yet running from Ortiz and Pulev."

    Whyte had several WBC sanctioned fight... in comes Fury... and boom title shot STRAIGHT AWAY. So tell me Lord of the judges... who was more deserving???


    "he'd be behind Breazeale still"

    He didn't hide from anyone, he fought AJ in a slug fest, he fought Chisora in a slugfest... and now he's risking his streak to REMATCH Chisora again!!!!!!!! Why???? He's so close to a title shot why risk it???????

    Ohhh but he is scared to fight Ortiz ahhhh ok. Yeah Whyte's actions have REALLY demontrated a fearful man. GTFO. Why don;t you engage your head before you post then you won't sound so silly Paddy.

    Ortiz and Breazeale woukld have made for financially inconvenient hassle... look at Wilder v Fury biggest names.... a USA PPV flop. They were unreasonable with their demands.

    "his money demands (and Chisora's) have resulted in their rematch being on a PPV platform. That, is self-entitlement"

    And you DAMN right Whyte ain't gonna bow down to Chisora pricing himself out. It's Chisora's problem it went PPV and brough on Haye to take an extra cut of the Pie.

    Whyte is the HOTTER commodity... he has more credible wins since they fought and is significantly higher rranked.

    According to you Paddy, self-entitlement is getting what you're worth. Gee... I'll take your advise and not be self-entitled next time I go for a job interview.

    Hi Adam... what's your salary expectations? Well I have 5 years experience in my field, but let's pretend I have zero.. I'll work for carrots.

    Paddy you need to go back to school, I am serious. Your objective thinking hat must be in the laundry.


    "If someone has caused me to dislike them then they've had an impact on my mood, thus my life. Meeting them is irrelevant."


    Spoken like a true child, because only a child would react in the manner you describe. Because you dislike someone for silly reasons, they have made you upset. Even though, you never spoke to or met this person, they have made you sulk and impacted your life in a negative way. You have suffered emotional distress and can no longer leave your home to buy food.

    You made personal injury claims before Paddy? Can you help me write one?

    "He's been a professional" except for when he was banned, right?

    Yeah banned for an innocent mistake, looks like giving the benefit of the doubt is beyond your realm of capabiliies... Lucas got done TWICE... the benefit of the doubt goes from 100 per cent to 0 percent by that point. It's easy to have to made his mistake when you JUST START OUT.

    It's clear you are negative by nature... everyone is guilty till proven innocent yeah? Everyone is an ******* till you think other wise...
     
  15. Aydamn

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    The only liar in this thread is yourself. No one spoke about Lucas' inactivity impacting his chances of beating Whyte piror to the fight.

    Whyte was written off completely. Enough of your BS.

    Tell me what was your comments... if any.. leading up to the fight? Or shall I go and use the search bar? Or will you delete some pre fight comments you don't want me to see?

    Truth always comes out.