Why does Wilder get so much credit for the 3rd Fury fight ?

Almost everyone acknowledges that the Fury who got dropped in the third fight wasn't the same Fury who had demolished Wilder in 2020. People primarily gave Wilder praise for his bravery and willingness to fight until the end, not because he dropped him. I don't see how that's contradictory.

 

Wilder gets credit for his heart and resilience in the 3rd fight vs Fury. Also the fact that this was coming off of such a one sided loss in the 2nd fight affects people's perception.

Fury from the Ngannou fight was qualitatively different than Fury from the 3rd Wilder fight. Fury from the Ngannou fight had no speed and would have probably lost to anyone in the top 20. Wilder would've stopped that version easily. Even the Wilder from the Parker fight.

 

Because he went out on his shield
Dropped heavily in the 10th, yet proceeded to fight on and get brutally knocked out in the 11th

He showed a lot of bottle and resilience, like Fury and Usyk too. These 3 are tough guys that won't quit. You have to literally break them. No goofy smile when hurt and looking for a way out like others

 

When this era is done everyone will remember Fury Wilder & Fury Usyk

 

And as I said, they primarily praised him for his courage and bravery. I don't see most serious Boxing fans giving Ngannou more credit for dropping Fury than they do with Wilder. It's acknowledged that Fury was not in proper shape for either fight, and people judge both Wilder and Ngannou's KD's accordingly. Only their rabid fanboys or people who just hate Fury have made them to be some ultra great achievements. Aside from dropping Fury twice, Wilder did literally nothing the entire fight aside from getting beaten senseless, so what else would anyone praise him for ?

 

Wilder kicked that ass is why.

I dunno man, tbh. Suing a dude into kicking you ass is pretty badass though. I think it's troublesome people in this sport put things like how a man speaks over fearlessness, heart, determination, etc.

Wilder was KO'd twice by Fury ... Wilder was never heels to heaven like Fury in Fury-Wilder one. Wilder was never given the benefit of doubt like Fury. Maybe some folks reckon if Wilder was given the chances Fury was given he'd've pulled it off. **** if I know. What I do know is we've seen Tyson KO'd twice without it being called and never seen Wilder in such a state.



Funny thing isn't it? To be told you failed to KO a man who was given a count in a situation that normally goes strait to waving off, while when you are in a similar position the call is made while you support yourself by elbow, and then you see that man again be KO'd while another ref refuses to call it.

Knocked a man complete unconscious, he's given a 14 second 10 count after. You get knocked down and prop yourself up under your own power, no count, was good enough to call you out, just not him.


I can see why Wilder might be bitter or think he's got more to do but fans I don't really get it. He's not looked good in a very long time.

 

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Definitely was. Went completely limp.

 

Partly because Fury got too much credit for the dominant win in #2.

So Wilder doing better in #3, even though Fury was visibly unfit and underprepared, helped maintain the illusion/delusion that Wilder was a genuine/legit contender - as opposed to a fringe contender who'd have a punchers chance with the best, which his resume supports much better (despite the long and highly protected run as champ).

Having seen Fury in absolutely terrible condition, with very clear ring rust, go 50/50 in the first fight (and getting very unlucky not to win the decision) should've been an indicator of just how good Wilder wasn't.
But somehow, instead, the narrative became that Fury was somehow a godlike ATG who pulled off a superhuman feat by going 50/50 with the best the division had to offer...

The utter domination in #2 when in better condition should've dispelled the myth that Wilder was a serious champion, but somehow instead Fury's stock rose far higher and Wilder's stayed pretty much exactly where it was - when in hindsight, Wilder's should've sunk and Fury's gone up much less.

The reason for Wilder getting so much credit from #3 was because of how overinflated Fury's reputation had become - Wilder got lots of credit for showing heart (rightly) despite getting pummeled by an unfit fat Fury who was never known for being a heavy puncher previously... He didn't show ability, or even particularly durability (given Fury's lack of previous demonstrations of punching power) - but he refused to give up, and as men we respect that, regardless of why you're that firmly under the cosh.

Despite doing his best impression of Andy Ruiz (Joshua rematch version) Fury still won #3 - something that wouldn't have been possible if Wilder had been the truly world class fighter that we'd all been sold...
But somehow, it seems to have suited both Wilder AND Fury fans to keep up the narrative that Wilder wasn't an extremely limited and protected fighter - so he got credit despite not fighting very well, but battling on like a man.

 

You shouldn't care about narratives. Most of them are created by overzealous fanboys who can't get past a fighter's hype, they're seldom factual, so I don't pay any attention to them, nor should anyone. The truth of the matter is that Ngannou was a big, athletically gifted MMA fighter who had a basic grasp of Boxing, and who happened to catch Fury on a bad day. Wilder was also a big, athletically gifted Boxer with dangerous KO power who couldn't spell defence and skill if you gave him every letter and told him the order to put them on, who in the third fight caught Fury on a bad day. It's the Heavyweights, so men like these are always dangerous, as unskilled as they may be.

Whatever ''good'' there is about Wilder and Ngannou's Boxing ability, has almost nothing to do with their skillsets and almost everything to do with their physical gifts. Both were overrated for a while, but they were never all that they were made to be. But you already know that. I really don't see why you needed to make a thread for this, when the answer is so obvious.

 

As much as I dislike Wilder and his BS excuses etc I have to tip my hat to him, he has guts and like you say, he will fight and go out on his shield, no quit whatsoever in him.

 

No idea.
Od maybe different. I understand people that think he deserve credit but for me that was always very similar Wilder as in fight 2 but just got worse opponent in front of him and got few his moments like 1 rounds where he try punch Tyson in stomach.

Wilder also was wobbled pretty quick here and turn into zombie mode where he became slow and eat punches again and again.
He just catch Fury with one great shot and score 2 KD. But Fury was slow as Fu... And probably his shape was similar to Ngannou fight.

Off course end of the day this fight go thriller way and Wilder looks much better than in fight 2 but for me main difference was that they all afraid to throw towell after drama Wilder done to Breland.

He for sure lost many health there.