Why does Wladdy owe Haye a fight, and why are Hayes fans scared or Vitali

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  1. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    The garbage logic going around here is that Haye called our Wlad, and Wlad ought to fight him, not Vitali.

    This is stupid on several counts.

    First of all, if Haye wants to be the world champion, then he should be ready to fight anyone.

    Wladdy and Vitali are two champions. They meet their mandatories and they decide who their optionals are.

    Haye is not a mandatory, and I have serious doubts that he could beat guys like Povetkin to become one. If he thinks he can, then let him try.

    Haye had no business calling out anyone- he hadn't proven a damn thing accept that he can beat fringe guys.

    He and his fans should accept a shot at any champion with grace and grattitude, as he has not earned it.

    Wladdy is going to fight two manadarories (Povetkin and Dimentrneko) as well as an UNDEFEATED challenger in Arreola this year. There is nothing wrong with what Wlad intends to accomplish this year.

    And finally...

    What is all this garbage about Wlad having a glass jaw that Haye can exploit? Wlad was dropped and stopped early in his career by some power punching heavies, but has made improvements, and it no longer seems a problem. More recently, Haye has been dropped and stopped by cruisers, and then moved up to fight guys who are as much as 50 pounds heavier.

    So basically what I am saying is stop the delusions and show the brothers the respect that they have earned.
     
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  2. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    Hayehuggers fear both Klitschkos :D
     
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  3. Williams27

    Williams27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree with what you say, the Klitschko's are damn good fighters and are the true best in the HW division. However I do feel that Haye is a serious threat because of his Speed and power. I'm not gonna be beating on either Haye or Klitshcko in their fight but I cant wait for this showdown.
     
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  4. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    And I want to re-iterate, I agree that Haye is a hell of a fighter.

    But he has not EARNED anything. Neither Klitschko owes him scraps from thier table, and he and his fans ought to be greatful for a shot at either.
     
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  5. kgs83

    kgs83 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Haye isn't the first fighter to be a champion in a weight below and move up to get a quick title shot in the weight above.......so get over it.

    The fight with Vit or Wlad should be made cause its the fights the fans want to see, this is what boxing should do more often, make the match-ups the fans want to see. The HW division is crap (be honest), so not point wasting time on mandatories IF the fight can be made sooner. So credit to Haye and Vit for touch wood making this fight happen.

    And i don't know if anyone of here has really disrespected the Klits, most posters on here respect them. Some ppl think they are boring to watch (which can be true) but that doesn't mean they are not respected.
     
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  6. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Has anyone actually said this or are you just picking an argument in an empty room?
     
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  7. sst

    sst Active Member Full Member

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    I did not expect Wald to fight Haye. I knew he would run and Vitalli would look after his frail brother.
     
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  8. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    All good and valid points.


    You could explain all this to Suge, but i doubt if he'd grasp it.

    He has some unresolved issues around the Klits and used to fancy himself as an educator.

    Until they began educating him.
     
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